RE: Fusion?
August 31, 2015 at 6:16 am
(This post was last modified: August 31, 2015 at 6:22 am by Fake Messiah.)
Yeah what's up Brian with pulling nuggets from your ars like
Come on, ITER costs 22 billion dollars and it's only a prototype. Compare it to cost of war in Iraq and it costs as much as one month of war in Iraq and chances of being killed by a terrorist are slightly bigger then being hit by a meteor and yet government still goes over it's ways to pour trillions of dollars on it.
Sure fusion will revolutionize the world giving us power to make cheap gas, cheap electricity, burn garbage and nuclear waste and also be able to use energy to make such big temperatures that we would be able to convert the matter from one form to another so that we don't need to mine anymore. Truly that will be the world so advanced that compared us to them would be like comparing medieval peasant to modern people of today.
And as plasma physicist Dr. Francis Chen says that Apollo like urgent program to bring fusion online would cost less then Apollo program did and would solve our CO2 problem and oil dependency problem.
The main problem is who is going to organize it? There are solution to make US independent of oil and gas like I posted in one of previous posts but even that seems to be over politicians heads and you must be aware that time is ticking. Forget about the year 2100, real doomsday might come sooner then you think: Arctic is rapidly and melting there are huge reservoirs of methane on the sea floor there which could get released into the atmosphere as there is no white shield of ice to reflect the sun rays and if that gets released - especially since Shell is also starting to drill there - Global warming will start quickly to rise and then it's the end of us all.
For instance Great Permian Extinction which was Earth's most severe known extinction event, with up to 96% of all marine species and 70% of terrestrial vertebrate species becoming extinct. It is the only known mass extinction of insects. Is considered to be caused by runaway greenhouse effect triggered by sudden release of methane from the sea floor.
In spite of that our faiths are in hands of politicians that are not only unbothered by this but even claim that US should look upon China because of their industrial growth, since they don't have this ecological laws that are "killing jobs". I mean just imagine poor NIKE if they suddenly weren't able to make their snickers for $1 and sell it for $100 - they would go broke.
Of course they never mention that people there are living an appalling conditions, in a horribly poisoned environment where just from burning coal and oil in power-plants dies 4000 people every day. They say that because they are "intellectuals" which today means they have a price that shapes their thoughts and in case of drilling Arctic, Shell payed them $4,5 billion.
Also remember in 2002. in Copenhagen United States and China—signed a nonbinding agreement pledging to keep temperatures from increasing more than 2 degrees Celsius above where they were before we started powering our economies with coal. (That converts to an increase of 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit.) It is a very risky target for all of us: so far, temperatures have increased by just 0.8 degree Celsius and we are already experiencing many alarming impacts, including the unprecedented melting of the Greenland ice sheet in the summer of 2012 and the acidification of oceans far more rapidly than expected.
2012 report, the World Bank laid out report that said: “As global warming approaches and exceeds 2-degrees Celsius, there is a risk of triggering nonlinear tipping elements. Examples include the disintegration of the West Antarctic ice sheet leading to more rapid sea-level rise, or large-scale Amazon dieback drastically affecting ecosystems, rivers, agriculture, energy production, and livelihoods. This would further add to 21st-century global warming and impact entire continents.”
Also because governments did not agree to binding targets, they are free to pretty much ignore their commitments. Which is precisely what is happening. Indeed, emissions are rising so rapidly that unless something radical changes within our economic structure, 2 degrees now looks like a utopian dream. The World Bank also warned that “we’re on track for a 4°C warmer world [by century’s end] marked by extreme heat waves, there is also no certainty that adaptation to a 4°C world is possible. Based on the latest modeling, it is becoming safer to assume that at 4°C global vegetation becomes too saturated to act as a reliable “sink,” leading to more carbon being emitted rather than stored. Once this happens, any hope of predicting impacts pretty much goes out the window.
(August 29, 2015 at 7:03 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: And we certainly won't have to build fusion plants at a trillion dollars a pop.
Come on, ITER costs 22 billion dollars and it's only a prototype. Compare it to cost of war in Iraq and it costs as much as one month of war in Iraq and chances of being killed by a terrorist are slightly bigger then being hit by a meteor and yet government still goes over it's ways to pour trillions of dollars on it.
Sure fusion will revolutionize the world giving us power to make cheap gas, cheap electricity, burn garbage and nuclear waste and also be able to use energy to make such big temperatures that we would be able to convert the matter from one form to another so that we don't need to mine anymore. Truly that will be the world so advanced that compared us to them would be like comparing medieval peasant to modern people of today.
And as plasma physicist Dr. Francis Chen says that Apollo like urgent program to bring fusion online would cost less then Apollo program did and would solve our CO2 problem and oil dependency problem.
The main problem is who is going to organize it? There are solution to make US independent of oil and gas like I posted in one of previous posts but even that seems to be over politicians heads and you must be aware that time is ticking. Forget about the year 2100, real doomsday might come sooner then you think: Arctic is rapidly and melting there are huge reservoirs of methane on the sea floor there which could get released into the atmosphere as there is no white shield of ice to reflect the sun rays and if that gets released - especially since Shell is also starting to drill there - Global warming will start quickly to rise and then it's the end of us all.
For instance Great Permian Extinction which was Earth's most severe known extinction event, with up to 96% of all marine species and 70% of terrestrial vertebrate species becoming extinct. It is the only known mass extinction of insects. Is considered to be caused by runaway greenhouse effect triggered by sudden release of methane from the sea floor.
In spite of that our faiths are in hands of politicians that are not only unbothered by this but even claim that US should look upon China because of their industrial growth, since they don't have this ecological laws that are "killing jobs". I mean just imagine poor NIKE if they suddenly weren't able to make their snickers for $1 and sell it for $100 - they would go broke.
Of course they never mention that people there are living an appalling conditions, in a horribly poisoned environment where just from burning coal and oil in power-plants dies 4000 people every day. They say that because they are "intellectuals" which today means they have a price that shapes their thoughts and in case of drilling Arctic, Shell payed them $4,5 billion.
Also remember in 2002. in Copenhagen United States and China—signed a nonbinding agreement pledging to keep temperatures from increasing more than 2 degrees Celsius above where they were before we started powering our economies with coal. (That converts to an increase of 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit.) It is a very risky target for all of us: so far, temperatures have increased by just 0.8 degree Celsius and we are already experiencing many alarming impacts, including the unprecedented melting of the Greenland ice sheet in the summer of 2012 and the acidification of oceans far more rapidly than expected.
2012 report, the World Bank laid out report that said: “As global warming approaches and exceeds 2-degrees Celsius, there is a risk of triggering nonlinear tipping elements. Examples include the disintegration of the West Antarctic ice sheet leading to more rapid sea-level rise, or large-scale Amazon dieback drastically affecting ecosystems, rivers, agriculture, energy production, and livelihoods. This would further add to 21st-century global warming and impact entire continents.”
Also because governments did not agree to binding targets, they are free to pretty much ignore their commitments. Which is precisely what is happening. Indeed, emissions are rising so rapidly that unless something radical changes within our economic structure, 2 degrees now looks like a utopian dream. The World Bank also warned that “we’re on track for a 4°C warmer world [by century’s end] marked by extreme heat waves, there is also no certainty that adaptation to a 4°C world is possible. Based on the latest modeling, it is becoming safer to assume that at 4°C global vegetation becomes too saturated to act as a reliable “sink,” leading to more carbon being emitted rather than stored. Once this happens, any hope of predicting impacts pretty much goes out the window.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
