(November 17, 2015 at 3:05 pm)Rhythm Wrote: A better argument, Thump, would be that strict guns laws are not the -cause- of low murder rates. That would be a better argument, because they aren't...or at least no one has managed to establish that they are (and not for lack of trying), while the field of american gun law and gun homicide plainly demonstrates that there is no causal relationship. Might be different elsewhere, but we don't write other countries laws, and we aren't looking to solve other countries problems by writing laws here.
For data supporting this, you need look no further than the CDC and FBI. One, no longer allowed to research (wtf)..and the other no longer interested in enforcing.....(semi-wtf).
I certainly don't think that they are always directly linked. I also think that the issue has so many variables that unwinding one of those variables out of the equation is probably impossible. In other words, what works in Wyoming probably wouldn't work in New York, because the cultures are different.
As for not looking to solve other countries' problems here, the OP specifically mentioned another country, so I think it's germane. But as I said in my reply to him above, I'm done in this thread; it's clear he's not interested in decent conversation (with me at least) so I'm not going to waste any more time here ... just wanted to give you the decency of a reply.
