(January 27, 2016 at 11:45 am)Drich Wrote: All of these people followed their 'pop morality' to it's logical end. How is the modern westerner any different? What about your system of belief transcends what other generations will deem 'immoral?' and if you do not have this absolute morality, then how are you in a position to judge ANYONE Else's system of right and wrong?
It's called "reality," and it's what I hold every potential moral claim up to in deciding whether it is or is not true.
Let's use your example of homosexuality for this: the claim that homosexuality is immoral simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny, if one keeps in mind the real world. It causes no actual harm (that couldn't also be inflicted by straight couples, meaning to focus on gays there would be special pleading) nor any deleterious social consequences such that it should stand. In fact the sole reason at the core of why it was considered immoral for so long is that god doesn't like it... and examining that claim up against reality casts serious doubt on whether such a being even exists, and even if he did, his pronouncements aren't simply automatically moral truisms. Thus, unchanging, objective reality disproves the moral claim that homosexuality is bad.
You say that a changing view on this issue is a sign of ineffective "pop morality," but I'd suggest it's a little thing called "learning," and that as we gained the ability to collect demographic data such that the wild claims people made about the gay community could be measured and tested, we learned that actually, those claims were largely factually wrong. The moral view regarding that issue didn't change for no reason, Drich, and it'd be a huge oversimplification to say otherwise; what actually happened, both via a gay community refusing to stay closeted and increased research that this afforded, was that the lies told by religious ideologues and conservative fraudsters were no longer able to stand unchallenged, and those of us who value truth over fantasy changed our views to fit the evidence once we were all afforded the ability to see it. It wasn't some arbitrary shuffle of morals: the lies your side told got shouted down by the truth.
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