pop morality

[Drich]

What part of EMPATHY is a Propaganda controlled response do you not get?

I gave several examples where society THIS SOCEITY has taken away all basic human rights to several different groups of people and has or is working to obliterate them!

This is NO Different than what Osama did. That's what Empthay is! It's sympathy for those in whom you've been trained to identify with. Take away their humanity with mindless propaganda and all empathy ceases.

Empathy is not a propaganda controlled response, if it was then it would not appear in all societies.

lol.. It doesn't! While empathy is a core 'value' of western society it does not mean all soceities have been trained to tap empathy. North Korea is a big middle finger to your idea that all societies have empathy. Thier empathy for their fellow man has been trained out of them, their is only loyalty and love for their leaders. This is demonstrated over and over by families turning on it's members because someone didn't love their leader as he should. The fact that empathy can be removed from people or it can be trained in or even magnified by definition means it is not a core value. The fact that we don't see abortion as killing babies speak volumes on how empathy can be controlled by propaganda. We take the most basic and primal of all of our instincts (protect our offspring) use a different language's word for baby (fetus) and all attachments society has for our children are just gone. It's because we are trained/condition to suspend empathy.

The examples you described are examples of the suspension of empathy. Also sympathy and empathy are separate things, empathy is the ability to understand the thoughts and feelings of others. If you notice, all attempts in the past to wipe out others groups were followed with dehumanizing propoganada, that not manipulating empathy, its trying to make it go away all together.

I agree with the statement just not your conclusion. How does dehumanizing people so empathy is with held NOT Empathy Being controlled by Propaganda?

What's more is that your morality system openly brags about murdering entire groups and is proud of it.

Actually no.
I am not an Old testament Jew, therefore my 'religion' does not command nor brag about genocide.
That said. I do not have a problem with destroying a whole people if they can be rightfully identified as evil.
I know you proably cant see straight to read the rest of this right now but just incase you can, I want to also point out we in the US have already done this very thing. Not to mention 2 or 3 more generations into a middle eastern conflict, a few cities of our dirty bombed or nuked, a fallen president or two and 'pop morality' will also find away to justify the whole sale destruction of an entire people as well in post modern times.

You make it clear in this statement that you have never experienced empathy before, as you defined as sympathy for those you've been trained to identify with. Did you know that children as young as 3 understand that when you hit someone else it hurts? And that this has been present in every culture where children have been observed. Now of course through how your raised this basic empathy is turned off, but its easy to discover again if you try to understand another person from a rational point of veiw. However I can't help but feel that discribing empathy to you is like describing color to a blind man.

But again, the fact that empathy can be turn on or off makes it subject to pop morality. If you want to talk about who the stupid one is in this conversation answer my question honestly. The subject of empathy came up when I asked what 'force/principle' do you possess that would transcend the pull of pop morality, and keep you from being like one of the german citizens who fell into Nazism by simply following the tides of pop morality in their time and culture?

Now you admit that empathy can be trained or controlled... Do you not understand that our cultures tell us who to have empathy for and whoo not to have it for, just like the nazis did with the Jews? Just like we do with unborn Babies?

So then if Empathy is controllable by the culture, it is not a force that will trancend the culture and help you define right and wrong because the culture will control who it is you will have empathy for. So again if the culture makes a hard left into evil then you can be sure your empathy will have been long switched off so you can march right over who the culture wants gone.