pop morality

[Drich]

From this thread it seems that you are trying to point out the flaws in morality thinking and replacing it with "attonment".  Right?

A couple of things came to mind.  First it's always good to question ones ways of thinking to check against reality.  That's okay.  Of course that's what "free thinkers" do.  So in answer to your question on what makes a person believe they can see through cultural teachings the answer is "free thinking".

You better ask for your money back.. because your version of 'free thinking' is falling short.

I know you will not agree but think about it.  Most religions tell you to follow unquestioningly a policy in a holly book or face some horrible punishment.  A non religious is under no such obligation.  To me this seems like one would have a much better chance at seeing through cultural bias.  Is it perfect? No.  It is human.

1 thess 5:21
Question ALL Things and Hold on to what is Good!
This does not mean question only the questionable, it means question the foundational.. How is it do you think I can answer your questions if I first did not ask them myself?

Second "atonement" is trying to make up for something you did wrong.  Right?

No, the atonement in which I refer is God making up for our short comings on the cross.

In the monotheistic case it about being born to Eve.  Nothing else.  Even if you do everything possible to be the best person you can it wont matter.

Book chapter and verse please.
this is not ANYWHERE in the bible. We are talking about completely different religions.

This is rediculous of course and I will quote Mr. Hitchens on this one

"we are made sic and commanded to be well."

Hitchens is a simple minded tard who doesn't understand the basics.
We got sick, and God offers to make us well.

you understand all that implies so i wont go into a long explanation of it.

I will say this, I see no steady morality coming from a sence of guilt.

And if I were to say ALL morality is Bad? even all forms of Christian morality? would it make you think that you don't know what i am talking about? From my side of the computer it's obvious that as 'free thinking as you like to think yourself to be, you haven't even asked enough questions to understand what is being discussed let alone create a proper position against the OP. Yet here you are just jabbering away at how closed minded theists are... Hmm How embarrassing would it be if the theist is the one who has spent IDK the last 15 years studying this very topic, and you are the one who doesn't have a clue? im mean after that big long speech about 'free thinking and all'