pop morality

[rexbeccarox]

I don't know about others, but I do extremely little to support your definition of "slavery", Drich, and in fact, I rail against it.

I buy local produce at farmer's markets, where I meet the actual people who grow it.

I wear Saucony brand tennis shoes, which are made in the US. I haven't owned a pair of Nikes or other shitty brands since I began working when I was fourteen.

My last J-O-B was supply-chain manager for a designer shoe company whose practices I was extremely close to and couldn't condone. I planned on quitting that job the actual day I got laid off so I didn't have to quit. We were acquired by a company who owned a few other shitty brands and some of them have now gone under.

For my own business, I only bought American brands and things that were made in the US.

The job I'm about to start is for a not-for-profit to benefit developmentally disabled adults (not retards or mongrels, you slimy fucker) teaching them how to make things with which they can make an income locally.

I actively protest and vote against unfair labor practices.

I will admit it's not perfect, and, yes, we are stuck with brands that don't use fair practices (like most electronics brands), but I always have my finger on the pulse of what's going on in that arena, and use products that are most fair; people like me and others who are actively against these things will eventually change them. The bubble will burst, no doubt in my mind.

I absolutely do not condone slavery, whether it's your dubious definition or the real one, Drich, and the fact that you are so insistent that everyone does condone it says way more about you and your shitty Godwin argument than anyone else.

Well at least you in all your hippy-ness do indeed see and confirm the problem. Good for you.

Huh. I thought it wasn't actually a problem, Drich.

Now if you could only go off grid and completely sever your dependence on slave provided goods you could actually/rightfully be self-righteous about your 'morality.' 

Fuck you. You are such a dickhead. Stop projecting your own self-righteousness, you vile prick.

Because Textiles and food products only maybe scratch 1/3 of the surface of the problem. Industry Raw materials (Steel, Lithium, copper, rubber, plastics) and their production is what provides you with the modern life style you still live. Ever own a car? Ever use electricity? Again, My point was to say that we ALL COMPLETELY DEPEND on Modern slavery like it or not.

I actually don't own a car and I get around on my American-made bike. I use as much solar as possible, and I was just last night talking about my plan to outfit my own future house with solar panels.

But, even if you did and found away for you and everyone else in the western world to live without slave made goods... What happens to the other 2/3rds population of the world who depend on those slave jobs to eek out a living? Does your self righteousness demand that those people starve to death just because you need to pretend to be 'living better/more moral' than your great x4 Grandmother did?

Straw men impress no one, and "pretending" is not my thing. I do better for this world and I encourage others to do the same.

Can you see How slavery could not 'all bad?'

You should really read and edit before posting. That sentence makes no sense.

IF you were actually worried about those people making your products and went to those third world nations where these materials are source or assembled and asked them about their jobs. you would see many if not all to be very glad to have their jobs. Many wait months if not years to get a factory job. It is not only a source of pride but often time the only source of consistent revenue some people have access to. If this is all someone has who are you to take it?

I was in direct contact with a lot of "those people" for years. I had many conversations with "those people" and even went to their factories. None of them were happy, and I ultimately decided to quit my job when my favorite rep called me on Christmas Eve, crying because they hadn't finished manufacturing an "important" order for us and she wasn't going to be able to go home... and she hadn't been home in three years.

This issue is far more complex than 'all slavery=bad.' How else can one feed 5 billion people spread out over an entire planet? are your micro farmers and hippy cobblers going to provide all food and goods for 5 billion people (2/3 of the worlds population?) even if they could would they themselves not be slaves?

I'm very close to having an important investment pay off, which will yield me enough money to start the charitable foundations I've been brainstorming for years. One of them is going to be focused on feeding people who need to be fed. If everyone who had access to an extra buck did so, there wouldn't be hunger.

Again, I'm actually doing something about this stuff. You can call me self-righteous all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that I actively rail against unfair labor practices and I'm hoping to make a difference.

I'm not sure why your vile nature continues to surprise me.