(March 8, 2016 at 11:35 am)loganonekenobi Wrote: sorry "sport" you are only doing what the religious are famous for doing and not really helping the morality situation.Ahh, no. The 'religious' demand obedience to a give set of rules. I am teaching biblical Christian which is the polar opposite. It is total freedom from said rules. How after all that we have discussed do you still not understand this?
Quote:What i posted is not hatemail but testimony.A testimony is a personal account or experience of in this case Christianity. This is not a testimony concerning Christianity. This is a testimony concerning someone's experience with the christian religion. The difference? a religious act or a religion can be justified even if the core religious rules are not supported by the core values (in this case) found in the bible. To say the core values of biblical Christianity and the religion of christianity are the same, can only be done so through ignorance or hate. Because nothing could be further from the truth.
Quote: If you dont understand that this happens then you cant connect with many of the people here as to why we are here debating.As witnessed by my above statement I do acknowledge this. but I go a step further and separate religion from the principles that define Christianity. Religion being all the non biblical aspects of worship, which may include the mundane things like grape juice and crackers every Sunday to the things religion demand that the bible expressly forbids. Like forbidding a priest to marry when the bible tells us no one is to forbid marriage.
Again That is why I am teaching from a biblical vantage point rather than a religious one. So when I say "X" is not apart of Christianity I mean "Biblical Christianity" does not condone "X" even if the christian religion does in some shape or form.
Quote:If you cant understand how cultural pressure on women to look a certain way objectifies them then how can you say that you have the inside line on morality.Read this part again "Cul-tur-al Pre-Ssssure"
A woman's looks does not define her righteousness before God in Biblical Christianity. It is why she wants to look that way in her heart that makes her acceptable or evil before God.
Quote:If you dont see the affects that gender stereo typing has on those forced to bear them then how is it I am supposed to believe that the sky daddy's atonement will fix anything if it did not open your eyes.Don't look now but I quickly and easily addressed your 'paradox' concerning a woman's looks.
Quote:I attempted to discus moral issues that go outside the normal thinking but instead you labeled these issues as not important. My thinking is that you would never discus such issues with anyone that did not agree on your faith. That is a large wall that no amount of typing will ever get through.I dismissed them because i thought you would be able to see and make the connect for yourself. Because it like everything else is about where our hearts lie in relation to Loving God with all of our being and our neighbor as ourselves.
Quote:So I will simply return like for like. I will tell you that following the bible is a mind trap design to close the afflicted mind into narrow thinking. I will send you well wishes and good thoughts that you will come to see the "truth" and cast off your chains known as God.You so have no clue what your talking about. Christianity is about Freedom, Freedom from rules to define our righteousness. Morality is about following certain rules. Seriously answer this question if you ignore all others. How can you be 'free' if you lock yourself into following "morality" to define if you are a good person or not?
Have a nice day.
may reason shine upon you someday.
In other words if your actions define whether you can view yourself as a good or bad person then you are a slave to follow what soceity deems 'moral' no matter if it is moral or not.
Christianity is freedom from this, because we are no longer defined by our actions to determine if we are indeed 'good' before God or not.
So again How can you be free if you chain yourself to society's measure of 'good' and have to follow what society says to be deemed good?
Seriously! I have made this point 100+ times in this thread, and you 'good people' seem to either be too stupid to understand this very very basic concept or you are afraid to accept what I have said here and change from the way you have always viewed and stereotyped Christianity!
Again If society holds they keys to your morality Meaning if Society defines your morality for you, what happens when society makes a turn. I have used historical references via the Inquisition, Manifest Destiny/The slaughter of the native population both in the US and Australia, The slaughter of the Jews, Chinese, Koreans, Russian when society changes it's morality. Those who lived in those societies did not view their deeds as wrong or evil. Because society Changed it's view about a certain segment of the population so too did those in society change their 'morality' which allowed them to murder hundreds of millions.
Those who tie their morality to what society defines as right and wrong are slaves to that society. Whatever the society says is right they will have to adapt and accept otherwise risk being labeled 'immoral.'
That is why I used the example of a societal push towards Pedophilia. If you remember NONE Of you cowards would answer my question, that if pedophilia was somehow scientifically justified and then accepted by society would you stand against it? If I remember correctly Rocket was the only one who said anything, and even then it was only to say 'science would never be used to justify it.'
That my confused atheist is a perfect example of who between us is a slave and who is free. I can and always will say pedophilia is wrong. I don't need society's approval one way or another. I don't need science to tell me what is right and wrong. You on the other hand have to make sure. You have to support homosexuality, You have to support Infanticide, You would also have to support pedophilia if and when it becomes accepted. So then how am I the one bound by 'chains?'