pop morality

[TheRocketSurgeon]

Post 652 will help you 'figure things out if you haven't already read it.

Yes, I read that drivel. It's the same bullshit about atheists on which we've corrected you numerous times. It's absolutely astounding to me that you keep repeating the same drivel despite such corrections. You're either learning-disabled or just too dismissive of our shared humanity to actually listen to us.

And, when you previously posted that same horse-hockey about homosexuality being such a bad thing in our society, I pointed you to the finding of the US Supreme Court, where they noted that the active repression of homosexual behavior is NOT "deeply rooted in American society and tradition", but a fairly recent phenomenon. Of course, homosexual people often were murdered by Christians in the name of Gawd (thus the term "faggot", a bundle of sticks, to remind them that the could be burned alive), but I hardly count that as any sort of moral behavior. 

As for abortion, I challenge you to find a mention of it outside proto-feminist literature, pre-1940. It, too, was not something that was considered morally reprobate on the level you're describing. These have become causes celebre only in relatively recent times.

What you are really whining about is not the loss of morality but the loss of Christian privilege, in which your cult once had the power to (locally, and occasionally via legislation) push its wacko religious ideologies onto others, and now you lament that atheists can freely speak out about not accepting your bullshit, and you can't oppress us for it or continue to use government money/power to promote your cult's message.

Finally, and most importantly, your post #652 doesn't even remotely address what I raised, namely the fact that human empathy is a better marker for the treatment of one another than any ideology-- every one of the historical examples you named in that list, as-always trying to tie us to Hitler per your usual fascination, is an ideology that was able to override our natural human empathy and play upon our tribalism and xenophobia in order to turn some out-group into The Dangerous Other™ who needed to be stopped/destroyed. Christianity most certainly belongs on that list of ideologies capable of overriding our human empathy, as do Nazi Fascism and Marxist "we claim to be communist but aren't really" dictatorships.

In other words, you've won the argument for us by acknowledging that human empathy-based morality is the standard, the standard from which we must be corrupted by ideology in order to sink to the levels of depravity you described. You simply think that your Christian ideology is The Only Right One™ out of the many, despite the reams of evidence that it causes people to do harm as a result of that corruption. To us, you're just one out of the many ideologies against which skeptical thinking may inoculate people before they fall victim to such ideologies that can dehumanize others and remove us from our empathy-based morality.

As I said before, your Jesus guy figured it out... even if he was just paraphrasing the Golden Rule from others who figured it out before him.