(March 17, 2016 at 10:15 am)Drich Wrote:(March 16, 2016 at 12:54 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote:
Oh glob..
I thought you were one of the 'smart ones.' You can seriously be reading my posts and still retain such a large content diffency unless you are just scanning for keywords to build a strawman/what you think I am trying to argue from just a quick skim read.
So let me explain my first paragraph which is what in post 652 that renders your whole last post and the one before it completely moot.
You last two posts just like all the posts of Thena Are under the assumption that I am trying to push Christian 'morals' over pop morality/empathy based morals.
Understand 'smart guy' I'm not. As you pointed out All morals are corrupt, unchecked 'christian morals' are what incited the Dark ages, witch burnings, the inquisition, whatever you said about 'fags.' All the 'bad stuff' is a direct result of taking 1/2 of what God has done and then trying to make it fit a 'moral' standard of living.
What I am saying is all 'morality' is bad, no matter who sponcers it or how it is founded. because all 'morality' is based on a righteousness (in this case a gold standard of good) other than God's. God's standard of righteousness can be found in his completed law. All of the Law of the OT, along with the extension of the law Jesus himself added to include thought. Which is Impossible for any of us to follow. Which is why God provided atonement. atonement allows us grace from the sins we being slaves to sin can not help but to commit. The only catch being we have to repent, before we can accept atonement that gives us grace/freedom from the law.
However we can not repent if our 'morality' says it is ok to commit certain sins. That is the only reason we need God's standard. so we know when to repent/turn from our sin. It is not meant for us to try and live by to define our 'morality/worthiness' for heaven. God's law is only to show our sin. So again we can repent of it and be free from trying to live a 'moral' life. meaning a life defined by our actions.
So you see while you are busy trying to define who you are by how you live your life/what deed your 'morality' tells you to do or not do. A Christian's 'righteousness' is found completely separate and apart from the things he does or does not do. My 'righteousness' is defined by the life Christ lived, not the one I live. for I put on his 'morality/righteousness' and die to my own when I accepted the atonement He offered me.. That means I am free from the laws of man and God as a means to define my own righteousness.
So again you whole argument is moot as I am not trying to replace one morality with another as you seem to think. I am trying to free you from following any version of morality to define who you are before God.
Can anyone make ANY sense out of that yammering stream-of-consciousness self-contradictory wall of text that I never should have bothered to read? So, Drippy, a Christian's "righteousness" has nothing to do with his actions? Really? Well, actually I can believe that. I have met a few preachers that obviously believed as you do: they raped children all week, then talked to their imaginary friend the ceiling, who told them everything was ok, and they were good to go out on Sunday morning and tell everybody in the pews that if they weren't good xtians they were gonna burn in hell forever. Riiight.
Not that I believe you're capable, but could you maybe distill that drivel above into one LOGICAL paragraph - in plain English?
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein