RE: pop morality
March 28, 2016 at 11:36 pm
(This post was last modified: March 28, 2016 at 11:37 pm by TheRocketSurgeon.)
(March 28, 2016 at 5:45 pm)athrock Wrote:(March 28, 2016 at 4:48 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: It's not comic relief when they're attacking school standards, spreading deliberate propaganda, and convincing generations of Americans (and, increasingly, elsewhere) to reject skeptical thinking for magical thinking.
I just listened to a whole two-hour program on the radio (while driving to St. Louis, last week) in which they rambled on about the FFRF and how their "religious freedom" is under attack, because they can no longer use school buildings or functions to spread their religion. I almost picked up my cellphone and called to ask them if they'd ever heard of Matthew 6:5-7.
This is a classic example of why a little knowledge of scripture can be a dangerous thing because the NT also says:
Hebrews 10
And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.
Now, Rocket, if Christians are encouraged by the author or Hebrews to "not giving up meeting together", where, exactly, do you recommend that they meet if they cannot use the buildings which their tax dollars were spent upon? Shouldn't all groups of citizens have equal access to these facilities?
No one, repeat NO ONE, is saying that Christians should cease to meet. But there's a huge difference between meeting to privately (or publicly) practice one's own faith and using the State to further one's religion. Being the only not-like-the-other-kids in a class full of Christians can be very intimidating to a child who just wants to follow the herd-- no one, especially not a teenager, likes to be singled out or left out, with such group activities.
As Dr.Fuzzy was kind enough to point out to you, Christians would be screaming bloody murder about separation of church and state if they weren't the predominant faith-group in this country. If the Muslims were all together in the school, praying to Mecca, and the teacher was leading the prayer, I doubt you'd feel the same way about it when your child came home to tell you that he was thinking about converting to Islam because all his friends were doing it.
Also, as she pointed out... you don't NEED to meet in the public places, to show your prayers to all who can see, which is why I referenced the "those who pray on the street corner for all to see" verses from Matthew 6. The only purpose of such meetings is to try to proselytize-- even in the radio show, they stated no less than twelve times (that I counted) that "this is a predominantly Christian town" as they lamented that they could no longer host prayers to Jesus at the school board meeting and at the graduation ceremony, or have circle-prayers led by the coaches, etc.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.