(April 4, 2016 at 11:26 am)Drich Wrote:(April 4, 2016 at 10:59 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Lol, I actually didn't, but I DO sincerely appreciate the vote of confidence from the likes of someone as intelligent as yourself. [emoji4]. I'm not ashamed to admit ignorance anywhere. Now I've learned something I didn't know before! Too bad we can't say the same about some of our theists here...[emoji848]Respect for most of that.
Just remember it is the 'theist' who is taking you to school right now.
You guys get so wrapped up in your stereotypes and air of superiority you fail to see that most of the time, you are the one who has the faulty understanding of history, theology, Apologetics, And even Science and Logic.
You all depend way tooo much on the atheist theist stereotype. It leads you to all sorts of bad conclusions.
We don't think theists are dumb; we think they are blinded by their cult beliefs into rejecting sound, logical thinking far too often. The skeptic encounters something they don't understand and they either admit they cannot understand it, or they learn it.
You didn't "take her to school", you taught her something. (Or rather, she taught herself when she encountered something she didn't know.) As a member of the religion which literally invented the Gregorian calendar, you have a distinct advantage over someone who doesn't belong to that religion, in terms of being likely to know that particular piece of information.
As for the "faulty understanding", that's definitely your cult training talking. No one knows everything in every field, yet it is atheists who are challenged by theists on every piece of knowledge (we must be biologists and physicists and mathematicians and historians and sociologists all at once, just to answer all the "well how did ____, then!?!" questions thrown our way) because you cultists are uncomfortable with anyone who rejects your pre-digested dogmas. Some of your dogmas may in fact be correct... but when it comes to actual history, keep in mind we endlessly deal with those who don't even understand how/why DNA proves we're cousins to the chimpanzees, let alone the rest of the human origins story. Why? Because they prefer a "magic-man-from-dirt-in-the-garden" myth. And that's just one type!
To reduce the irony, try actually listening to people who tell you you're wrong with your atheist stereotypes, assigning false motivations (or assigning the motives of a few to the whole, when it does not represent even the common thinking among us, let alone a definitive trait), and start looking at what you consider your evidence in light of the actual objections we present to you. You have a habit of answering with some form of "Well that's what the Bible says, so..." (unless what the Bible says is uncomfortable for you, in which case you ignore it or try to tell us some far-fetched alternate explanation despite what we can see plainly with our eyes, and mumble something along the lines of "spiritual discernment" or claim it's not True Christianity).
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.