pop morality

[Drich]

You really DO have a listening problem, don't you? I find it telling that you used the term "fantasy", since we have told you R-E-P-E-A-T-E-D-L-Y most of us haven't even read Dawkins, or if we have only found a few of his ideas interesting, and that we don't "follow" him because we consider him just any other person with a few good ideas and a lot of bad ones. 

What in all that I said makes you think I insist any of you have read Dawkins? Dawkins simply provided the outline or the 'structure' that most of atheist (by word of mouth) tend to fall under.

Just like you don't have to read the bible to be a christian, yet one does indeed have to follow the teachings of Christ. How one gets those teaching will vary, but even so it does not mean one who has read the bible is any more Christian than one who has not, nor does it mean one does not have to be a follower of dawkins to spout the same type of argument/using the same frame work he himself has use/published. Why because again his frame work is ingrained in the atheism community. His arguments are the foundations (starting points) where you and people like you put their own personal spin on your own arguments. Again all of this from a 'monkey see/Monkey do' (evolution dig) behavior when a 'atheist' smashes up a christian position.

We tell you this over and over, and yet you persist in the fantasies you have created: a nice, neat little row of straw-man atheists. And I've never seen you "refute the shepard's [sic] logic" about anything... the only thing I've seen is a wall of straw-man half-truths that you construct and then smash to pieces before declaring victory, then ignoring when we explain to you why your personal ideas about science/atheism/history are partially or totally incorrect and/or logically inconsistent.

If you've never read dawkins how would you ever know?

For someone who gets so angry when we supposedly can't grasp your Paulianity-fixation with the description of salvation (etc) in Romans, it's hilarious that you won't listen when we explain that you're just making up fake versions of us to tear down. It would be amusing to watch if I didn't know you think that way because there are apologetics mills out there, cranking out these false propaganda to mislead Christians into remaining ignorant about science and fearful of "the enemies of faith". Then I just because sad, and finally angry, to think these people actively work to increase the prejudice against atheists and other "wrong-believers", from the Christian majority.

"Then I just sad too, when you make angry!"