Rob, here's an Iyah for you. Quran 6:88 "This is the guidance of Allah: He giveth that guidance to whom He pleaseth, of His worshippers. If they were to join other gods with Him, all that they did would be vain for them."
It's from a passage talking about the previous prophets, not that it matters. The point is, it helps your case. Just throwing it in the mix. This is an additionality to the sealing of the hearts, or something that leads to the sealing to the hearts. I'm not quite sure. But if we're not being guided, then surely a seal will form around our hearts.
Quran 2:26 is fun too. I imagine the TQR will be getting to that one shortly, if they haven't already. I'm not subscribed by the way, so I don't know. Then you have Quran 2:29 talking about seven firmaments, and Salafi/Wahaabis really struggle with this one because they want to make science fit the verse. (Hint: The Earth's atmosphere does not have seven layers).
*I think Shias have a miracle claim relating to somebody dying on a battlefield somewhere (after Muhammad died), but I can remember who this person was. Maybe it was Husayn ibn Ali, but my history is not good in this respect. I am sure I will be corrected by somebody.
If Allah is not intervening in the ways in which I suggested (i.e. the floods, cars), then maybe our lives are all just a series of random events? Think about it: If it's not Allah's making these serious events happen then our lives must just be down to chance (since Allah leaves our universe alone).
It's from a passage talking about the previous prophets, not that it matters. The point is, it helps your case. Just throwing it in the mix. This is an additionality to the sealing of the hearts, or something that leads to the sealing to the hearts. I'm not quite sure. But if we're not being guided, then surely a seal will form around our hearts.
Quran 2:26 is fun too. I imagine the TQR will be getting to that one shortly, if they haven't already. I'm not subscribed by the way, so I don't know. Then you have Quran 2:29 talking about seven firmaments, and Salafi/Wahaabis really struggle with this one because they want to make science fit the verse. (Hint: The Earth's atmosphere does not have seven layers).
(February 24, 2016 at 12:59 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: The context and definition of life in the Quran, is that it's a mere test, a place where humans battle temptations that arise from the illusion of non-existent supervision, in other words: this is no more than a test, where human behavior would be judged.Life must really not be important to Allah if there are all of these different religions fighting. Why not send down renewed proof to reaffirm the message so that there can be no doubt? That way only the really arrogant people would chose not to believe. It's very frustrating that nothing miraculous has happened since the time of Muhammad (unless one is Ahmadi*). Mirzā Ghulām Ahmad is kind of like Joseph Smith, just so that everyone is aware. Really surprised his Wikpedia article isn't locked, because the Saudi puppets really hate the man.
*I think Shias have a miracle claim relating to somebody dying on a battlefield somewhere (after Muhammad died), but I can remember who this person was. Maybe it was Husayn ibn Ali, but my history is not good in this respect. I am sure I will be corrected by somebody.
(February 24, 2016 at 12:59 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: The test has no point if God intervened with the ways you suggested.Does Allah not want to make it easy/easier for the Ummah?
Even on the backs of camels, this religion reached the whole globe, and God's word that said that Islam is universal, has and did indeed, came true.
If Allah is not intervening in the ways in which I suggested (i.e. the floods, cars), then maybe our lives are all just a series of random events? Think about it: If it's not Allah's making these serious events happen then our lives must just be down to chance (since Allah leaves our universe alone).
(February 24, 2016 at 12:59 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: The "quran calls for killing people" argument is not valid, since this exact dilema begins and ends, with the human obsession with military institutions.The Quran advocates for lots of things. Just like the Bible. It has good and not so good parts. The Bible is full of death and destruction too. The Bible says the slaves are to "come from the nations near you", and I hate that. Since I want to be fair and just, I must point out the things in the Quran too. I am sure the Jews and Christians have their lame rationalizations if one cares to look for them. If I was born in Pakistan or Saudi then I'd probably be biased in favour of the Quran.
The Quran advocates peace, and the verses that call for it are all out there. Disproving them would be great, as a starter. But throwing accusations without evidence, is not convincing. Self defense is not a crime.