Transexuals
April 14, 2016 at 10:13 pm
(This post was last modified: April 14, 2016 at 10:20 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(April 14, 2016 at 9:59 pm)Vincent Wrote:(April 14, 2016 at 9:14 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Well, my argument applies to physical sex, not just biological sex. This does not apply to people who have had a sex change. Those people, by all means, can and should use the bathroom that matches their identity.
As for the rest, again, it wouldn't "encourage it." I never used that word and it's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is, it would make it easier for the perv to pull off going into women's restrooms. Because then he wouldn't even need to look like a woman. He could just put on some lipstick and padded bra and walk right into a women's bathroom or lockerroom. And no one would question it because they would just assume he's a trans.
Your reasoning is becoming more and more ridiculous.
The instances of someone abusing anti-discrimination laws in order to be perverted are almost unheard of. You are exaggerating the amount of danger the public would be in if we allowed trans people equality and dignity by a whole lot. Like, a whole lot. There is little to no evidence or statistics to show that trans people using the correct bathroom will lead to perversion. Look at the freaking UK, where people use whatever bathroom they feel comfortable in. And how much of a problem are perverse assholes? Oh yeah. It's not a problem there.
Do you honestly think pulling a story off the internet of a scenario that rarely actually happens is going to help you? I might applaud you if you could find TEN different and separate accounts (most of which I'm sure will be from anti-trans far-right conservative news articles) of a man disguising himself as a woman so he could sneak into their bathroom. Why? Because it's a non-issue. Happens a couple times a year in a country that has about a billion public restrooms.
But do you know what is an issue? Trans people being denied equality. And how many of them will suffer every year if more anti-trans bathroom laws are passed? All SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND that are estimated to be in the U.S. right now. What do you have to say for those people? "Sorry, tough luck. Just gotta suck it up." You are trying so hard to sound fair and compassionate towards trans people... but you're not. You really don't care about them at all.
This remind me very much of the craze leading up to the legalizing of gay marriage. All these conservatives riding their paranoid-ass slippery slopes:
"If we allow this, what's stopping incestuous marriage??"
"If we allow this, straight marriages will go extinct!"
"If we allow this, children will be traumatized, and the family unit will break apart!"
"If we allow this, what's stopping two women and a man all marrying each other??"
But here we are, approaching a year later, and how much of that has come true? How many of those fears were justified?
Oh, right, none of them. The world is turning the same as it was yesterday, but with greater justice and a step further for the gay community.
Time to watch history repeat itself.
Sorry, C_L, but transgenders WILL get equal bathroom rights. It might take a couple years... might take decades.... but human society is ever progressing, always moving forward. Change is inevitable, whether it occur today or tomorrow, and whether or not you like it.
Yeah, I mean what's next? Transgendered males can't walk next to women on the streets after sundown, because it might be a rapist in disguise? I can think of PLENTY (too many) "easier" scenarios for a rapist to commit rape than dressing himself up in full drag...
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.