(March 27, 2018 at 2:00 pm)Hammy Wrote:(March 27, 2018 at 1:08 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Why do you think pain is a quality of being sentient? You and I are on different pages.
Well pain itself isn't but any experience requires sentience so the experience of actually feeling pain and it actually being painful, and not to just be a bodily reaction that looks like pain from the outside, requires sentience. Any pain that is actually painful to an organism requires sentience.
I've read some of your other posts. Fish, reptiles, amphibians and birds all learn to avoid pain (physical), therefore they perceive pain. There are several other indicators for the perception of pain. I'd consider that "painful" sentience. Maybe they don't "feel" (experience) it the same as humans but they do feel it.
Google Pain in "........" wiki. Then read.
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