The real religion?

[LadyForCamus]

You are still treating the question as if it was a lab experiment. You probably don't espouse scientism as your worldview so admit there are other methods than science of gaining knowledge. A person's self-reported intuition is one of those other methods.  A billion peoples self-reported intuition is even better.

It comes down to this, Steve: your "metaphysical" claims are either subject to scrutiny or not. If they aren't, then the discussion is over. It all comes down to faith. /thread. If you think that they are, and you enter what you believe to be "good evidence" for this claim into the discussion, then be prepared to have that evidence critiqued for quality in the same way we would critique any other worldly claim.

I don't know anything about the Mandela Effect.

Sure, and why bother looking it up, right? Afraid you'll learn something that might cast a different light on your dedication to personal testimony? Typical willful ignorance...

That was not the point. Since you obviously cannot claim science is the only source of knowledge you cannot claim something to be false simply because you can't examine it in a lab. Find another reason to say that God does not exist and/or people do not have relationships with God.

I'm sorry; did I stutter?

1. Never claimed "science is the only source of knowledge."

2. Never claimed "God is false because you can't study him in a lab." Also, I'm not sure what that means.

3. I am not providing you with reasons God doesn't exist.

YOU made a claim - 'God exists, and people experience a personal relationship with him.'

You provided what you think is "evidence" for your claim. I'm saying your evidence sucks; it's not evidence. I provided you with factual reasons why the evidence sucks. Therefore you have not adequately made a case for the claim.

That's not an argument against a specific belief. You need to provide a specific reason why a billion people's experience is false and not just say 'experiences can be false, therefore this one is false'. 

You are strawmanning the shit out of me. See above.

The NT contained actual events that happened in the natural world

THIS IS A CLAIM. NOT evidence. face palm*

I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone.