RE: Why can't Christians Verify Exactly Where Jesus Was Buried?
September 12, 2016 at 3:10 am
(This post was last modified: September 12, 2016 at 3:15 am by Aractus.)
(September 12, 2016 at 2:03 am)Minimalist Wrote: Ehrman has a Master's of Divinity and a PH. D. from PRinceton Theological Seminary. How much more of a fucking theologian do you want? The fact that he has outgrown his early training should be a alarm bell for you but you seem to have missed the point.
Right then, so we're in agreement with Ehrman. What on earth do you have against Hurtado? Unlike Ehrman he only publishes things at an academic standard... Like I said he is a distinguished scholar. Wallace even will admit where the body of evidence lies before proposing his theological perspective, such as authorship of the NT books. So even though there may not be complete objectivity from him in terms of "who do you think wrote 2 Peter" he will happily say that most scholars think it is a forgery, and doesn't try to hide it. When asked "why do you think Peter wrote it" he will answer simply that he accepts it on faith; i.e. admitting it is not a question he is answering academically. He doesn't pretend there's an academic answer. A dishonest scholar, or one that lacks academic integrity, would try to concoct an academic argument to suit their point of view.
As I said though we're talking about the body of evidence, not individual scholars, who will invariably have differing opinions about the New Testament. What I was saying is I don't think it's necessarily helpful to use the label of "theologian" when in fact theology persists to the same questions as historicity in many cases. To me at least (not academically) the word "theologian" conjurers images of Evangelical American Preachers like Rick Warren and Grand Wizard Johnny Lee Clary (RIP), or other preachers who we would hardly call "objective".
And I should say I'm not dismissing Carrier's qualifications, as I believe I correctly said, he is the outlier. That said, I'm sure if I tried I could find at least one qualified biologist who advocates for creationism.
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The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke