(November 12, 2016 at 10:15 am)Tonus Wrote:(November 12, 2016 at 9:54 am)Little Rik Wrote: You start with the wrong foot so to speak.
You presume that God may harm the innocent.
You see a little girl getting hurt and you presume that God wrongly punish her.
Wrong. You based your entire answer on something I did not say.
Our world is one where people harm each other and the only recourse is to react and punish them, but some people get away with hurting others. You state that a better system is one that does the same thing but manages to catch everyone by settling the score after death. Both systems do not prevent wrongdoing, they react to it.
You asked how I would improve this if I was god, and I explained that I would prevent that wrong from being done. I didn't say god harms the innocent, I pointed out that god does not prevent it. You then jump into your bullshit religious explanation about previous lives as if that makes it better. Here's an idea-- if that girl had been prevented from being wicked in a previous life, then the person hurting her now could be prevented from doing so, and the world suddenly becomes a place where people do not hurt one another. You think that a system that has produced thousands --if not millions-- of years of people hurting one another is having any sort of success in teaching them how to live in peace and love?
Your system doesn't work. It sucks. It's no different than a universe without a god or karma. The fact that you seem to think that this is the best possible option because it teaches people to be peaceful and loving is a perfect example of how religious thinking warps people's minds.
You can not change the universal laws Ton.
There is the gravity, there is the positive and the negative there are so many other universal laws
including the karma law.
If you would get only the positive then everybody would be God and there would not be the need
for any creation but creation is there so there is a system that go along with this creation.
Without it there would be chaos.
After millions or billions of years that the universe exist there is no chaos so that means that the universal laws are doing their job very well.
It is all about learning Ton and the process of learning is not always smooth expecially for the slow learner.