Karma poll

[Little Rik]

In the previous post you stated that a supernatural entity is all bull and here below is your statement.

And nowhere in the statement you quoted did I say that "a supernatural entity is all bull."  You're so confused that you don't even know what you are quoting or what it says.

Why should I reach a consensus with anyone?
People are free to believe in what they like most.

You've described the problem in a nutshell.  People are indeed free to believe what they want.  But if they want to actually know what is true, they need to stop acting like children and so some work.  And when they do that work without preconceived biases and "what they like the most" horseshit they tend to work towards a consensus.  Why should you reach a consensus with anyone?  Because otherwise your claims are just that-- claims.  And you can't back them up.

As far as you say that a supernatural entity is all bull I will have to say that is not because yoga works and yoga is all about reducing the distance that separate me from such an entity.
By feeling that the separation is reduced day by day I automatically know that this entity is real.

Ah yes, god is real because you can "feel the separation between you and him reduced every day."  In other words... bullshit.  Get back to me when everyone who claims this stuff agrees on who and what it is.

Now however you shift the topic on a previous point that I already explained of how the blood to the brain is relevant.

You made the claim, I asked how it was relevant to what we were discussing, and you went off on these bizarre tangents.  Your inability to focus or comprehend are not my problem.  And once again, you claim that I said something that I didn't say and the quote you use PROVES IT.  Are you trying to sound like an idiot?

That is why I mention the blood in order to correct you when in a previous comment you only mention the oxygen.

This is so stupid.  I mentioned that the cause of NDEs is oxygen deprivation to the brain, and you make a point that blood also flows to the brain.  I agreed by pointing out that it is the blood that brings oxygen to the brain.  In other words, my mention of oxygen also implied a lack of blood flow.  You seemed to think that mentioning blood was significant, as if it meant anything other than the cause of the lack of oxygen. Honestly, Rik... what the hell is wrong with you?  How are you unable to keep up with such simple concepts, so that you wind up making them complicated?

I am talking about logic Ton.

Stop stalling and prove what you're claiming, otherwise, it's just another claim.

Progress come when the positive is not affected by the negative.

Like I said, we went through this before and your current effort is just as poor as the last one.  You spew word salad that is either nonsensical or stupid as if you're hoping that there might be a kernel of truth somewhere in there.  There isn't.  You're making this stuff up as you go along and you're bad at it.

1) By criticizing a supernatural reality you automatically say that is all bull.  

2) There is no problem with reaching a consensus with anyone who practice the same path and within this
type of yoga a consensus is there but in your previous post you mention the karma.
There is a myriad of people who believe in karma.
From Hindus to Buddhists to a lot of other people as well and the belief in karma vary so a consensus can only be reached among those who follow the same philosophy.    

3) Let me explained what the feeling of separation is all about.
Suppose my mate Ton goes to the uni.
And suppose that to complete the uni and get a degree it takes 6 years.
My mate Ton now just started the first years or maybe is doing the second or the third or the fourth or the fifth or sixth year but he has not finish yet.
I am sure that Ton is very eager to finish the sixth year once and for all and during this time Ton feel
a sense of separation between him and the moment that he will be able to reach the goal or the sixth year.
This feeling is better known as a sense of separation.
The more Ton advance toward the goal and the more Ton feel that the goal is real.


4) By mentioning that the cause of NDEs is oxygen deprivation to the brain only you were wrong that is why I did correct you by saying that the lack of oxygen is not the only cause.
Also the lack of blood is important.
Not only that but by not saying that also the body deprived by the flow of oxygen and blood you pretend that only the brain is involved in the NDE.
NDEs eventuate when the body (brain, organs, and everything that make up a body) die not just when the brain die.  

5) Proving a claim?
In the physical world a claim can be proven physically-materially.
In the spiritual arena or world the claim can also be proven but by not having a physical-material structure is obvious that can only be proven in a spiritual way.
When in some next life my mate Ton will engage in spirituality he will know what a spiritual claim is all about.  


6) I did show you how every single thing in this finite universe go hand in hand with the positive and negative.
I also challenge you to tell a single thing that is an exception to the rule and instead of telling
of anything that you think does not follow this rule you come up with the usual bullshit in order to avoid the challenge.
Sorry mate you fail once again.