Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: April 29, 2024, 4:22 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Is the statement "Claims demand evidence" always true?
#53
RE: Is the statement "Claims demand evidence" always true?
(December 12, 2016 at 6:51 pm)Mudhammam Wrote:
(December 12, 2016 at 6:33 am)bennyboy Wrote: Yes.  All experiences, and nothing provably more than that.  Absolutely.  All that goes with a discovery-- hearing people talk about it, writing numbers on a paper, looking things up on the internet, 100% of it-- it's all experience.  Inferences beyond that may be judged on their pragmatic value, but it must be understand that theories of material are really theories of experience.
While I do not necessarily disagree, does not the "pragmatic" assumption of objectivity allow that impersonal descriptions of the world may be given, and adjudged to be objectively true or false, regardless of any single individual's experience?  Would you consider these to be "theories of experience," though said individual experience need not be included in the description?
Absolutely, they are theories of experience. When I throw two billiard balls together on a table, I experience the feel of my hands on them, their sound, and the sight of their movement in various directions. What I really want to study is why things, whatever-they-really-are-or-aren't, act the whey they do in my experience. Whether the billiard balls are things in a mono-materialism, or composite ideas in the Mind of God, or simulations in the Matrix, doesn't matter. I have my remembered experiences, including those of being informed about things in school, and my newly-perceived experiences, including either the process of doing an experiment or the process of googling a video about it and watching it on Youtube, and I want to see how they are connected.

Whether people are or aren't real outside my experience of them, I can still consider what they say. If they describe a mathematical relationship, say the formula for gravity, I can attempt to validate that relationship. If they say there's a Sky Daddy, then I can attempt to validate that, too. In either case, I am seeing if a proposed relationship (possibly proposed by figments of my imagination, but I don't care) holds true in my experience.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: Is the statement "Claims demand evidence" always true? - by bennyboy - December 13, 2016 at 4:26 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Greek philosophers always knew about the causeless universe Interaktive 10 1318 September 25, 2022 at 2:28 pm
Last Post: Anomalocaris
  Why is murder wrong if Many Worlds Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics is true? FlatAssembler 52 3944 August 7, 2022 at 8:51 am
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  How To Tell What Is True From What Is Untrue. redpill 39 3676 December 28, 2019 at 4:45 pm
Last Post: Sal
  Is this Quite by Kenneth Boulding True Rhondazvous 11 1550 August 6, 2019 at 11:55 am
Last Post: Alan V
Video Neurosurgeon Provides Evidence Against Materialism Guard of Guardians 41 4334 June 17, 2019 at 10:40 pm
Last Post: vulcanlogician
  The Philosophy of Mind: Zombies, "radical emergence" and evidence of non-experiential Edwardo Piet 82 12047 April 29, 2018 at 1:57 am
Last Post: bennyboy
  Testimony is Evidence RoadRunner79 588 117106 September 13, 2017 at 8:17 pm
Last Post: Astonished
Video Do we live in a universe where theism is likely true? (video) Angrboda 36 11418 May 28, 2017 at 1:53 am
Last Post: bennyboy
  Is it true that there is no absolute morality? WisdomOfTheTrees 259 25725 March 23, 2017 at 6:12 pm
Last Post: Edwardo Piet
  Anecdotal Evidence RoadRunner79 395 52581 December 14, 2016 at 2:53 pm
Last Post: downbeatplumb



Users browsing this thread: 3 Guest(s)