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Is the statement "Claims demand evidence" always true?
RE: Is the statement "Claims demand evidence" always true?
(January 20, 2017 at 7:49 am)bennyboy Wrote: I wish I could remember.  I think it was in an introductory video on QM, specifically the ones where you check your detector AFTER the photon has already passed the slit, with the result that detecting spookily affects the resultant interference pattern anyway.  Super spooky, amirite?
Not really, that's another thing that Bohmian mechanics does away with, lol.  

Quote:I can't find the thing about chairs (it might have been another mundane object tbh), but here's an interesting article where they used molecules with 5000 each of neutrons, protons and electrons:

https://medium.com/the-physics-arxiv-blo....xwikveurq

and in that source I found (though not explained):
Quote:According to quantum mechanics, wave-particle duality and quantum superpositions must also occur for macroscopic objects such as viruses, cells and even baseballs larger objects.
So, just as a point of interest, why do you tend to focus on photons when the issue is apparently common to..well...everything?  What is it about photons that jumps out at you and makes itself the constant source of comment.  Long wondered this.

Quote:I think the way I wrote the dual-nature with the '<->' appeared confusing.  I didn't mean that ambiguities in QM don't make sense to me, but that defining QM particles outsude of some observational context (i.e. an all-inclusive objective "truth") didn't make sense to me.  But I can see now that that wasn't expressed very clearly.
Ah, rgr.

Quote:There's no conceivable real-world framework that is conceivable at least to me in which you could say, "The buck stops here.  For sure there's no other framework, no greater context of which all this is a subset, and which must be accounted for in determining that some truths are actually global."
Nor for me.  If we're still talking about qm.  For all we know there's something under that as well...and we aren't really talking about waves -or- particles, but some third wholly unexpressed thing which exhibits the qualities some of us associate as being exclusively the domain of one or the other.  Yet another possible way that a potential paradox is resolved.
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RE: Is the statement "Claims demand evidence" always true? - by The Grand Nudger - January 20, 2017 at 7:57 am

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