Who was "he" talking to?

[Godscreated]

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I understand the point you're trying to make but, you did not address what I was saying, I've seen and heard about many and none of those has a book anything like the Bible, especially one that the god of their religion tells them exactly who he/she is and those gods have changed over time. The God of the Bible is unchanging as He said.
As for denomination I'm guessing you were referring to Christianity and as far as I know all but the fringe denominations (those that most protestant denomination do not accept, Latter Day Saints and ect.) believe the same things about God and that He is unchanging. Yes there are disagreements on certain matters mostly small in how the Christian church is run.

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When I say denomination I mean that the major religions are all fragmented into many smaller groups.  They share many basic beliefs but differ in others, and some of those disagreements are sufficient to cause enmity and even bloodshed between them.  And in this, Christianity is just like the rest.  As for God being unchanging, the Yahweh of the old testament is a very different god from the Jesus of the new.  Then again, "unchanging" is another of those words that can be defined, interpreted, and applied as needed to 'prove' the point to each believer's satisfaction.

The God of the OT and the God of the NT are the one and same. When God said He was unchanging He meant from the beginning of time and forever. Christ said He was the alpha and the omega, meaning He has always been and will always be, never ending and never changing. Christ, the Father and Holy Spirit are the God of the OT one and the same.

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You tell me when you did, I would think if you were seeking God you were confronted with conviction and refused to follow through on that conviction, you might deny it but I'm betting you remember. God will extend His grace to those who seek even to those He knows will refuse the conviction that come from the Holy Spirit. Everyone who seeks will have their chance, God makes sure of this so no one can deny they were given a chance.

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See, this is what I mean.  You can't explain how someone does this, otherwise you might not have a way out if I say that I took those steps.  No matter how I would explain my experiences as a believer you will insist that somewhere I took a misstep or failed to follow the formula.  You need this in order to sustain your belief structure, but I don't.  To you, this is evidence that your beliefs are true.  To me, it's clear that they're not because you need to invent a scenario for me in order to support your view.

I did explain it you've chosen to ignore what I said.
I haven't questioned you, I said, "if you were seeking," then presented the statement from that prospective. I do not need to defend a formula because the Bible gives no formula. John 3:16 makes it quite clear what has to happen, the rest of the NT tells us the results of accepting John 3:16 as truth. God made the sacrifice and He did all the work to give us a chance at being redeemed to Him, He doesn't force us nor make us jump through hoops, He only says to believe. Then all one has to do is trust ie. have faith He will change us according to what the scriptures say. Once this happens you can see you're a walking miracle.I do not have to tell you you did it right or you did it wrong, the Bible tells us the results of coming to belief in Christ. I do not need you or anyone else to sustain and/or support my as you call it belief system, what I believe, have faith in and know comes from God and that is truly all I need to support my belief.

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They had choice and chose self over God and all have regretted their choice, they've lost everything and didn't care who they have taken with them. This should have been a warning to others just how powerful and deceptive the self is. People feel wanting because they want what God knows isn't good for them, the self is deceptive and far from omniscient. Remember those who have rejected God have regretted the choice.

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That doesn't address what I said.  Think about how impressive you believe god to be, and how you would feel if you were allowed in his presence.  How powerful he would be, how wise, how intelligent, how loving.  Do you think that you could ever turn your back on him?  After all, you are possessed of the same self that those others were, and you say the self is deceptive and not all-knowing.  If they could do it, you could do it.  If you cannot possibly do it, then they could not possibly have done it.

I already know these things to an extent and I want reject God, I have rejected what He has said many times it's called sin. Adam and Eve rejected what He said and they brought sin into the world because they sinned, they did not reject God himself. Satan has not rejected God, he believes in Him, he has rejected everything God says and refused to accept Him as his LORD. Satan convinced a third of the angels to reject God's word and not accept Him as their LORD yet they still believe He is God. They understand His unlimited power, they see His beauty, His holiness and all that He is, they fear Him as we see in the story of the man in the cemetery and the swine. Yes they've seen more of God than we have and they let self pride then blind them just as many people do today and did in the past. It is because we have not stood in His very presence that we have a chance at redemption and they do not.

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That's called sin, rejecting God's will in your life is sin and it's not rejection of Him. Children reject what parents know is best for their lives but that doesn't mean they reject their parents.

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They understood that turning their backs on him meant death.  They rejected what god offered on pain of death, ergo they rejected him.

If they (Adam and Eve) rejected Him they would not be in heaven and I have no doubts, they will be there. They rejected what He asked of them and they regretted the choice as soon as their eyes were opened to the knowledge of good and evil. They were tempted and fell into that temptation, Satan and the angels were not tempted, they willfully in their knowledge of God rejected His authority over them and went to war against Him because they wanted His seat of power. Instead they are going to get their seat set ablaze and completely destroyed.

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Look at what's recorded in the Bible it's all there. I've even explained it in my last post. Free will, choice. If those who do not want to live in eternity with Him they only have to say no. God want and hasn't forced anyone to accept eternal life with Him. This is played out in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation.

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I'm going to assume you don't have specific examples, then?

The whole of Sodom and Gemorrah, Judas and all those who were destroyed by the flood. A few examples.

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Just how do you know this, where has this information come from, I know it's not in the scriptures, I know them well enough to say this. God cares because He created us and calls us His most important creation. God gave His Son for us, I know this doesn't mean anything to you however it does to hundreds of millions, it really makes no sense to me how a small percentage of the people on this planet believes the rest are wrong. I know, I know science, yet science hasn't answered the most important things in life, why, because those are not answerable by science.

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No religion has a majority of the population on its side.  Many religious people will dismiss others as not being "true" members of their faith when it is convenient.  So it seems that if there was a god the best he is able to do is convince a small percentage to find salvation.  This flies in the face of any claim that he wishes for everyone to be saved.  Nothing is impossible for god except doing the one thing that would show how loving he claims to be.

I was referring to the atheist rejection of God and the hundreds of millions of Christians. The other religions are not my concern in this part of the discussion. I should have explained my thought better, sorry. He shows His love for you in many ways, you refuse to recognize them. Your life for starters, not forcing you to accept Him or what He did through Jesus, He could turn you into a little robot but, you would find ways to complain about that, no doubt.

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My God has no flaws, you might try and give Him flaws but, that doesn't't make it so, just your flawed opinion. The Holy Spirit makes sure those who will love God receives the grace they desire. I will agree all other gods are made up, they are there so people can deceive themselves into believing God doesn't exist. The gods of self, money, science even the ones made of wood and stone will lead to eternal punishment.

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Yahweh is jealous, angry, violent, vengeful, petty, a poor planner... the list goes on.  Many Christians don't deny his flaws.  They prefer to justify them by placing him on a level of his own where his flaws aren't flaws because he transcends laws and morals.  But put a human in that role and he would be history's greatest villain.  His status as an invented deity is partly shown by his specialty-- he is Jehovah, God of Armies.  He is originally a war god, part of a pantheon of gods.  Otherwise we must accept that one of the descriptors that he gave to himself was the personification of war itself.  A very different god than the one that personifies love in the new testament.

God doesn't deny HE is jealous, that He gets angry or that vengeance is His. He's not a poor planner, petty nor violent, those are things you assume about Him that are not true, God's providence gives Him rights we do not have. A person who calls God flawed doesn't believe in Him thus has no salvation and thus is not a Christian. John 3:16 tells us we must believe He is who He says He is. Tell me how is God to transcend who He is when He is perfect, God is completely moral and who He is is the law, He is the righteous God. He can't transcend His own perfect self. That's not logical, it's delusional thinking. That whole primes is an atheistic made up lie.
He is the God of an army of angels as we understand what armies are. What you want to believe about Him coming out of other religions is your choice but, it is a wrong one. I know I can't convenience you of that because you have bought into the lies of those who have deceived themselves and blinded themselves from the truth. Selfish men seek not the truth but rely on their own faulty reasoning. Love is who God is and He can't be less, He is unchanging so He was Love in the OT the same as the NT and He is today and forever.

We can go on like this until one of us leaves this forum or dies, as for my part you will never change my mind and as for your mind and heart that's for God to do, all He requires of me is to wittnes. I enjoy our conversation and I thank you for the civility you have shown. If you want this to continue please reply, I'm not sure when I will answer the screen bothers my eyes and I may take a few days off after tomorrow.

GC