RE: 4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challenged Man
January 5, 2017 at 9:47 pm
(This post was last modified: January 5, 2017 at 9:56 pm by Amarok.)
(January 5, 2017 at 9:15 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(January 5, 2017 at 7:33 pm)abaris Wrote: So am I right in assuming the only hate crime you're willing to accept is a racially motivated one? Or do I read you wrong there? How about sexual orientation? How about mental or physical disabilities? How about religion?
The thing is though, that there's a clear double standard here.
Remember when we were talking about muslim refugees, and someone said those who don't want to take them in are racist? My response to that person was:
"Yeah, we shouldn't discriminate against Muslims and of course we should take them in. But let's stop calling it racism bc Muslim is not a race."
I remember you insisting that it probably is about race that some ppl dont want to take them in, and you said denying racism is doing society disservice.
Yet here's a scenario where 4 black guys beat up a white man while saying "fuck white ppl", and all of the sudden you can't tell if this was racism? All of the sudden it doesn't matter whether it was or wasn't? All of the sudden race is irrelevant?
I respect you and dont mean to pick on you. This is only one example of the type of double standard that some of us keep seeing here in general.
Last I checked Ab said nothing about knowing or not knowing the motivation only the acts impact
Last I checked AB while guessing race to be a motive for xenophobia but even if it were not people would still be suffering and those in opposition to helping them would still be wrong
I can't speak for Ab but that's how I see it and I see no double standard
(January 5, 2017 at 9:42 pm)A Theist Wrote:(January 5, 2017 at 9:30 pm)The_Empress Wrote: I'll say it: it was a hate crime because it was racially motivated. No one said "fuck disabled people" but they did say "fuck white people". If the tables were turned, and it was white kids torturing a disabled black kid, saying "fuck black people," I'd be saying the same thing.Finally! Yes! I don't understand why others find it so wrong to rightly call this out as you did.
No one said it was wrong just irrelevant
(January 5, 2017 at 9:25 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(January 5, 2017 at 7:03 pm)abaris Wrote: Didn't i make myself clear already? It was a hate crime. Wether it was racially motivated, against a disabled person or both is entirely irrelevant. It was a hate crime and it was despicable. There's nothing more to say.
I don't think it was aimed at the disabled as a group; think they chose a disabled person for the reason that it was less risky. It seems to me clear from the verbiage that the motivation was racist, but that they chose the target they did was for reasons of practicality, not ideological.
This is possible as well good thinking
Lastly no one has said blacks can't be racist nor that blacks are always victims (thou the often are) just keep those straw men coming cementing your redundancy to this forum A Theist
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