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4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challenged Man
RE: 4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challenged Man
(January 6, 2017 at 12:29 pm)Tiberius Wrote:
(January 6, 2017 at 12:14 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Why are some people having such a hard time coming in here and just saying "Wow, that was horrible. That poor man. Yes, racist hate crime indeed." Isn't that what you would say in any other scenario that didn't involve a white person being the victim of people of color? Instead you come in here and reprimand the person for posting the story.

The thing is, I don't think anyone is having a hard time doing that. Read back over the thread and I don't think there is a single person who has denied that it was a hate crime, or even a racist hate crime. However people like A Theist were jumping up and down yesterday trying to convince everyone that people were denying exactly that, despite the fact that the thread is filled with people saying it was a hate crime, racially motivated, etc.

So where I have a problem is whether A Theist is actually so dense that he couldn't be bothered to read the thread properly and see that despite his assumptions, nobody was actually doing the things he was claiming they were doing, or whether he was saying those things to try and turn this thread into an argument over racism towards white people and how liberals all think that only white people can be racist. After being told repeatedly that people weren't denying the racist element of the crime, and A Theist continuing to espouse that view, I can only conclude that he had an ulterior motive for being involved in the thread, because quite honestly I don't think he's that dense.

Right, no one has said "this is not a hate crime." 

But there have been a couple people who have been hesitant to call it a racist hate crime, there have been a couple people who have said it doesn't matter if it's racism, and there have been a couple people who have come in here only to make some sort of objection at the person for having posted it. Some of these same people are the ones to be super quick to call racism on anything when it doesn't involve a white person as the victim, and who wouldn't object to other criminal news stories being posted. I pointed out a specific example earlier. 

So yeah, I'm seeing a double standard among some folks and that's what I'm pointing out personally. I can't speak to A Theist's motivations, though I will point out that he accused Thump of being one of the people who had a problem calling this a race crime when he actually had done just that. And I did call him out for it.

(January 6, 2017 at 12:33 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(January 6, 2017 at 11:54 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: There are people on AF to be over every story. If it was a story of a white cop beating up a black man, or a priest abusing someone, or a Texas conservative shooting at people, you better believe there would be plenty of people here to be all over it. 

Why do you single this one out?

I didn't single this one out.  I just saw it on the news where they were explaining this crime, and I then predicted which people here would be making a big stink over it trying to score some political point.  They're so desperate to show that white people are persecuted that I'm sure they were salivating when they heard about this story.

I was 4/4, BTW.

I see you're saying you didn't single this one out. But again, I have never seen you go into one of Min's "Damned _____" threads (or any news thread that doesn't involve an approved villain group or approved victim group) and being like "I saw this on the news today and figured you'd post it, and I could predict all the people that would participate."

(January 6, 2017 at 12:46 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(January 6, 2017 at 12:14 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: So someone posts a news story about a disabled man being kidnapped, tortured and beat up while being shouted racial slurs, and you automatically assume the reason someone posted about it is to equate white people persecution with minority persecution? Isn't this a tragedy and hence newsworthy regardless?  

Would the same people have posted it if it was 4 white men and women torturing and kidnapping a black kid?  My experience with all of them says, "no."

(January 6, 2017 at 12:14 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Why are some people having such a hard time coming in here and just saying "Wow, that was horrible. That poor man. Yes, racist hate crime indeed." Isn't that what you would say in any other scenario that didn't involve a white person being the victim of people of color? Instead you come in here and reprimand the person for posting the story.

Who's reprimanding anyone?  I'm just calling this for what it is.  A thread started to make a political point, not to acknowledge the horror.  Napo hasn't started a single thread in the last few months that wasn't politically motivated.  If you can't see that this one was, too, I hate to say it, but you're a bit naive, dear.

Again, people post horror stories here to make political points all the time. There are entire threads dedicated to it. Since most people here are left leaning, it's usually a political point that fits that narrative. So why, of all the stories posted here, you chose this one to object to?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: 4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challenged Man - by Catholic_Lady - January 6, 2017 at 1:06 pm
RE: What do we think of this? - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2017 at 9:26 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by account_inactive - January 5, 2017 at 9:27 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by FatAndFaithless - January 5, 2017 at 9:43 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by account_inactive - January 5, 2017 at 9:45 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2017 at 9:48 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Napoléon - January 5, 2017 at 9:48 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by CanOfMountainDew - January 5, 2017 at 9:49 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Napoléon - January 5, 2017 at 9:52 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by account_inactive - January 5, 2017 at 9:55 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by brewer - January 5, 2017 at 9:57 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by FatAndFaithless - January 5, 2017 at 10:15 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2017 at 10:18 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by robvalue - January 5, 2017 at 10:23 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by FatAndFaithless - January 5, 2017 at 10:24 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Amarok - January 5, 2017 at 10:39 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2017 at 10:42 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Napoléon - January 5, 2017 at 10:43 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by account_inactive - January 5, 2017 at 10:44 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Napoléon - January 5, 2017 at 10:44 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by FatAndFaithless - January 5, 2017 at 10:45 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Napoléon - January 5, 2017 at 10:47 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Amarok - January 5, 2017 at 10:48 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by account_inactive - January 5, 2017 at 10:49 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Amarok - January 5, 2017 at 10:52 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by FatAndFaithless - January 5, 2017 at 10:55 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 5, 2017 at 10:55 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by account_inactive - January 5, 2017 at 10:59 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Napoléon - January 5, 2017 at 11:01 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by abaris - January 5, 2017 at 11:01 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2017 at 11:03 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Napoléon - January 5, 2017 at 11:04 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2017 at 11:05 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Napoléon - January 5, 2017 at 11:06 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by abaris - January 5, 2017 at 11:07 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Napoléon - January 5, 2017 at 11:11 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by brewer - January 5, 2017 at 11:12 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by abaris - January 5, 2017 at 11:12 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Napoléon - January 5, 2017 at 11:13 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by abaris - January 5, 2017 at 11:15 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Redoubtable - January 5, 2017 at 11:15 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Amarok - January 5, 2017 at 11:22 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Napoléon - January 5, 2017 at 11:27 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by abaris - January 5, 2017 at 11:29 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Napoléon - January 5, 2017 at 11:30 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by paulpablo - January 5, 2017 at 11:31 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2017 at 11:46 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by brewer - January 5, 2017 at 11:57 am
RE: What do we think of this? - by Jesster - January 5, 2017 at 12:05 pm
RE: What do we think of this? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 5, 2017 at 12:21 pm
RE: What do we think of this? - by Edwardo Piet - January 5, 2017 at 12:24 pm

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