4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challenged Man

[Autumnlicious]

You did. Let me single step you through English. If it is not what you intended, then I expect it will be easy to clarify your position.

Here are the assumptions/axioms employed:

- You would not have included within the same paragraph unconnected ideas/statements. (A fair assumption given that you would not be able to communicate otherwise)

- You had some point or set of points to express (as opposed to a meaningless platitude)

Please correct me if my assumption on reading what you write is incorrect.



1. "It's unfortunate (though telling) that this turned into a debate."

- This establishes there is some debate, but does not specify what it is about. A safe assumption is either it will be left unspecified (thus requiring a thread read to establish) or will be specified shortly.

2. "This was a racist hate crime against an innocent disabled teenager. "

- this is either a bare statement of fact (stand alone) or could be related to the undefined debate as a statement of fact.
- Two possible meanings so far - either "There's a debate and there shouldn't be. Here's a fact" or "This debate is predicated on bad conjectures. This fact clearly is in conflict with that conjecture"

3. "There is no debate to be had."

- this statement establishes that the prior statement (the fact) directly negates the purpose of a debate by conflicting with said debate's fundamental premise.

Therefore, given the above, the unambiguous meaning of your paragraph, Catholic_Lady, is that there is a debate on if there was a hate crime and there shouldn't be a debate because the established facts contradict the premise of said debate.