4 Arrested In FB Video Torturing Of A Mentally Challenged Man

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Yep it was a hate crime, but which sect of our population in America do you think has more hate groups on average? Southern Poverty Law Center I do believe has a list of hundreds if not thousands. That list had a boom upon hummmmmm some guy from "Kenya" about to leave the White House. And the amount of assaults on LGBT and minorities has also gone up upon orange asshat's election.

It isn't a competition about who is more hateful.  If it is true that white USians have more hate groups than black USians (a point I don't necessarily dispute), that in no wise excuses or even mitigates what was done here.

Yep, it was a hate crime, but that does not change when it comes to the climate of our entire nation and our deep seeded [sic history is unfortunately still affecting us mentally.

Immaterial, except that you seem to be trying to say that this particular crime is somehow understandable given how black people are treated in the US (apos in advance if I mistook your meaning).  I disagree.

I honestly DO believe most when they say they are not racist, but if someone, not you, but if anyone is using that to ignore a very real problem, that does not help. The fact we elected Celebrity Despot who scapegoated everyone dog whistling to the poor persecuted white majority says to me we are backsliding not progressing.

I think you're trying to shoehorn the problem of white racism into a crime committed by black racists.  It won't wash.

To anyone here reading this, I really think it would help humans in general to take the words "minority" and "majority" in terms of geography. Whites are a majority in America, but if you moved to China, you'd be a minority. If you moved to Kenya again, you'd be a minority. But even between those of very similar skin tones, if you are white, speak no German, move to Germany, you are not going to feel the same or fit in as well as those who were born and raised there.

This is so utterly off-point I decline to address it in detail.

A black person it would be the same. If they are born here in America, move to a predominately majority dark toned population in any given country in Africa, the also would not have the same experiences growing up as if they were born there as black Muslims or Black Christians born there.

Same response.

Just like Kurdish Christians are abused in the East, and gays are feared and abused in the east.

Same response.

But here in America whites are NOT subject to the same volume of being feared nor are they affected as negatively on average.

I agree as far as it goes, but so what?  You're trying to take the specific crime of the kidnapping and torture of a white man by black people into a metaphor for all racially-based abuse everywhere in the world.  Doesn't work.  Also, try to remember that the victim in this crime is a mentally challenged white kid.  Rail all you like about the inequities in your society (again, I don't disagree that they exist), but try and stay focused on what happened here.

It is not as simple as far too many want to make it "I'm not racist" or "see see see, they do it too". "otherism" is an unfortunate reality worldwide in our species history, it is an unfortunate product of evolutionary survival in our competing over resources. But you cant simply point that out to most or simply say "That was then" or " get over it" or " "I am not like them".

Again, way, WAY off-point.

Knowing our species are not a separate species, and knowing our species is much older than our written religions and borders, knowing that we are all capable of the same acts of cruelty or compassion, really does help de-tangle our complex social ills.

Ditto, and a follow up to my earlier question:  Do you agree that what these four animals did to this kid is a hate crime that merits the severest possible punishment?  Try not to drag Kurds into it, and just answer the question.

Boru