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Guys do you believe Howard Storm's NDE?
RE: Guys do you believe Howard Storm's NDE?
(September 1, 2016 at 2:13 am)Little Rik Wrote: One guy called Howard Storm ex strong atheist all of a sudden after an NDE experience become a strong theist.
How is that possible?

Since Howard Storm was never near death, he didn't have an NDE. Yet his experience caused profound changes because he thought it was real. I had a hallucination when I was 13. At the time I thought it was real. That hallucination has stayed with me to this day. It isn't necessary for an experience to be real to have lasting effects on a person. Drug experiences have profound effects on the user causing them to go back again and again for the experience. Some illusions / hallucinations have lasting effects. People remember a memorable LSD trip for a lifetime. So your implication that something "must be real" to cause profound changes in the person is simply wrong. Christians and non-believers who attend old time revival meetings have profound experiences which they attribute to Christ, often with lasting effects. You're simply wrong. All it takes is for the person to believe it's real.

Besides, you don't take Howard Storm's account at face value either. He imagined hell which you consider to be an illusory aspect of any NDE, and he converted to Christianity, not your version of God. So apparently you've got your wires crossed. If his experience of God had been "real" why didn't he become a Hindu? So many questions, and you have so few answers. All you can do is repeat the same refuted points.
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Guys do you believe Howard Storm's NDE? - by arda101 - January 24, 2017 at 8:49 pm
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