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Would You Boycott a Business Because of the Owner's Political Views?
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RE: Would You Boycott a Business Because of the Owner's Political Views?
(January 28, 2017 at 2:32 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:
(January 28, 2017 at 2:20 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: But they still believe life begins at conception. Not at implantation. So they are morally opposed to drugs that would keep implantation from happening, thus killing the newly conceived human. We're calling it an abortion in that sense.

This is the problem. They are literally redefining words to meet their political ends. It isn't abortion. The thing was never a living thing. You can't just change the meaning of words. Conception means a very specific thing. It isn't just a sperm touches an egg. The whole process, which includes implantation and hormonal response is a medically defined term.

(January 28, 2017 at 2:20 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: As for your last question, it's a bit loaded. Their employees can get those 4 birth controls if they'd like, oitside of tje plan. The conflict is the ppl who own HL have a big moral objection to abortion, so they understandably don't want the insurance they provide and pay for to cover that. And again, I don't think omitting 4 types of birth control from the 20 that are available is some sort of "limit to health care." I really don't see how that is so horribly unreasonable.

You aren't understanding the legal precedent this sets. What would stop any company that has a moral objection to premarital sex from opting out of FMLA coverage for unwed couples? Or, for that matter, legally married gay couples from family coverage for their adopted child? Or, since we get to redefine terms all over the place, what would stop me from saying that all contraception is abortion, and opting out of coverage for all women employed by me? Why should a business get to make any health decisions for any person, period? Especially when that business is accepting government subsidies to provide said coverage?

Ok. Does it really matter what they call it though? Point is, they believe life begins at conception and are very much morally opposed to drugs that would end that life. Call it an abortion or not, they don't want to pay for insurance that would include these drugs, and forcing them to do so seems a bit unfair.  

As for the second part, I keep stressing lines and reasonable limits. That was one of the first things I said, and keep saying. We're talking here about not covering 4 of 20 types of birth control lol. The slippery slope can always be taken both ways. I don't think omitting 4 types of birth control to the health care insurance you provide crosses any sort of line when there are at least a dozen other types of birth control to choose from.

EDIT TO ADD: To the first part, conception does happen before implantation. Conception is when sperm and egg meet and begin to multiply. That happens a few days before implantation.
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RE: Would You Boycott a Business Because of the Owner's Political Views? - by Catholic_Lady - January 28, 2017 at 3:38 pm

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