RE: Why free will probably does not exist, and why we should stop treating people -
February 8, 2017 at 5:02 pm
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2017 at 5:15 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Admit...lol? OFC we lock them up to punish them, but if we lock them up to rehabilitate them....we're still locking them up, and we do. ofc, lock them up to keep the rest of us safe while we're punishing them....... That's the beauty of it. Prisons are useful regardless. They're useful for treating a person as though they had free will, and equally useful for the same reasons if we didn't.
We'd have to use incarceration as a first resort for any violent crime regardless of whether or not free will exists, and perhaps moreso if we just run with the idea that it doesn't. After all, how could we then argue, with a straight face, that it was just that once, that he'll be able to "control himself" later? We couldn't. Off to the cell they go until they've been reconditioned/refurbished/reprogrammed/recycled....whatever......
As clarification, I think that the tools we have can be used for rehabilitation, but I wouldn;t go so far as to say we have all the necessary tools for that switch. -and yes, I think we could make that switch, but..for absurd reasons, simply do not.
Incarceration is not discarding someone, if you want to make the analogy hold. Executing them and reusing them to make functional machines would be discarding them. Though, if criminals are malfunctioning machines...and we want to make the analogy hold, what's the problem...just to play devils advocate? What -makes- it seem entirely backwards?
We'd have to use incarceration as a first resort for any violent crime regardless of whether or not free will exists, and perhaps moreso if we just run with the idea that it doesn't. After all, how could we then argue, with a straight face, that it was just that once, that he'll be able to "control himself" later? We couldn't. Off to the cell they go until they've been reconditioned/refurbished/reprogrammed/recycled....whatever......
As clarification, I think that the tools we have can be used for rehabilitation, but I wouldn;t go so far as to say we have all the necessary tools for that switch. -and yes, I think we could make that switch, but..for absurd reasons, simply do not.
Incarceration is not discarding someone, if you want to make the analogy hold. Executing them and reusing them to make functional machines would be discarding them. Though, if criminals are malfunctioning machines...and we want to make the analogy hold, what's the problem...just to play devils advocate? What -makes- it seem entirely backwards?
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