It comes as no suprise to me that after the breathtaking rise of the turkish economy in the past ten years, nationalistic movements must have gained momentum.
Honestly I would rather be drank under the table with a turkish matcho, than to be assaulted by an islamist lebanese imigrant.
I rather have the feeling that the turks are integrating pritty well into our sociaty, and not just integrating but also becoming part of our culture.
If you like it or not, I have always seen the turks to be a european people or at least at the crossroads. Although you may originate from central asia, your people didn`t just rule over the middle east, but also over Rumenia, Greece, Bulgaria and the entire Balkans, and twice stood at the gates of Vienna.
So your culture has influenced us, not just since migrant workers came here in the 1960s and 1970s, but since the fall of the Byzantene Empire and the fall of Konstantinople.
One can especialy see this when traveling through the Balkans.
And on the other hand there is not just the turkish cultural influence in Europe through architecture, art and other, but in the one trip I took to Istanbul, I had the impression that it was a more tolerant and democratic sociaty than for example Rumenia.
This democratic western european principle might have only come into your country during the late 19th century when your Sultan built a new palace and when Attatürk later made it state doctrin, but it has become bart of your culture and defenatly brought you closer to Europe than for example nations such as Russia.
And considering Döner, well eaven that is culture in a way.
Cem Özdemir is the head of the german green party and Mesut Özil is member of ther german national footballteam.
When it comes to "matcho-culture", since you have been to school in germany you must know that our unis are filled with young german women seeking a higher education.
Quote:I don't know how much you can become part of one's culture with just Döner, but obviously, the Turks in Germany have done very little to represent our culture in Germany as anything besides the base, macho and bydlo type of culture that can only be expressed as vulgar ghetto culture and nothing more. Having lived in Germany for three years, I had problems in actually having relations with them, even more so than I had with anyone else in Germany, and I received the greatest blows to my person from the Turks in Germany, although I must admit that the Ülkü Ocakları in Germany was quite a big help when I went through the worst times in school, and helped me grow my ideological view to what they are today, introduced me to the basic concepts of nationalism, and even offered me a post as the head of the students(who were members and of the same year as I) in the third school I studied in Germany.
Honestly I would rather be drank under the table with a turkish matcho, than to be assaulted by an islamist lebanese imigrant.
I rather have the feeling that the turks are integrating pritty well into our sociaty, and not just integrating but also becoming part of our culture.
If you like it or not, I have always seen the turks to be a european people or at least at the crossroads. Although you may originate from central asia, your people didn`t just rule over the middle east, but also over Rumenia, Greece, Bulgaria and the entire Balkans, and twice stood at the gates of Vienna.
So your culture has influenced us, not just since migrant workers came here in the 1960s and 1970s, but since the fall of the Byzantene Empire and the fall of Konstantinople.
One can especialy see this when traveling through the Balkans.
And on the other hand there is not just the turkish cultural influence in Europe through architecture, art and other, but in the one trip I took to Istanbul, I had the impression that it was a more tolerant and democratic sociaty than for example Rumenia.
This democratic western european principle might have only come into your country during the late 19th century when your Sultan built a new palace and when Attatürk later made it state doctrin, but it has become bart of your culture and defenatly brought you closer to Europe than for example nations such as Russia.
And considering Döner, well eaven that is culture in a way.
Cem Özdemir is the head of the german green party and Mesut Özil is member of ther german national footballteam.
When it comes to "matcho-culture", since you have been to school in germany you must know that our unis are filled with young german women seeking a higher education.