Alec Baldwin Shooting

[onlinebiker]

Guns are not complicated and safety is not optional. If you use a gun, you own the consequences. No excuses.

I'm not buying this at all.

If you own a gun, every single thing about it is 100% your responsibility, from deciding to own it, to how its stored, what ordinance is around it and in it, and where you point it.

An actor is literally paid to point a gun at things, including the camera.  It isn't their gun, they aren't the ones legally responsible for checking it, and may not have the expertise to identify the prop bullets vs real ones (this gun was loaded with 4 prop bullets, and one real one).

If every actor has to unload the gun, check the bullets, and then reload, then they would need to be trained and registered as the firearms experts legally responsible for every gun in their hands.

That would result in more shootings, not less, so the responsibility is on the armorer and the person under the armorer's supervision that hands the weapon to the actor.  If the actor ever puts down the weapon, it needs to be checked again before going back into an actor's hands.

Horse pucky.

If an "expert" determines a gun is "safe" - hands it to.me - and I check it - how the hell could that result in more shootings?

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If I said he was NOT responsible - you' d be looking for Mr Baldwin' s head on a pike.......

Incidentally - you claim that Mr Baldwin has no legal obligation to ensure that the gun he is using is safe for that use. You have yet to show any such legal ( or moral) precidence.

You are aware that not everyone is as willfully contrarian as you are, right?

Also, how’s this for a practical precedent? On 31 March 1993, Michael Massee shot Brandon Lee with a gun he believed was loaded with blanks. It was for a scene in The Crow, but, it was improperly loaded and he wound up being shot for real. And, for the record, while I have seen a few of the movies he’s in, I cannot remember any of the characters IMDb says he played. The first time I remember hearing his name, it was when he died and the article said something along the line of “the actor who shot and killed Brandon Lee has died.”

So, what happened to him? Was he legally charged? Nope. After several months’ worth of investigations, Los Angeles DA Jerry Spivey decided to not charge him, explaining “there is no evidence pointing to the kind of negligence the criminal law seeks to punish. The kind of negligence the law seeks to punish is the kind described as willful and wanton. You just can’t find that.” While you could argue that there was that kind of negligence on the set of Rust, it doesn’t seem like there’s any of that on Baldwin’s part. Indeed, it doesn’t even seem to have been established that Baldwin intentionally squeezed the trigger. For all we know, it could very well have been an accidental discharge, and, indeed, there had been three cases of accidental discharge on the set of Rust before the fatal shooting, making the possibility all the more plausible.

No such thing as an accidental discharge.

Only negligent ones.