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Alec Baldwin Shooting
#51
RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
(October 28, 2021 at 2:51 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: You NEVER trust the guy who tells you " it' s unloaded".


Never. 

Unless its his fucking legal responsibility to do so, and that's literally the ONLY reason they are on set.
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#52
RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
(October 28, 2021 at 1:30 pm)Helios Wrote:
Quote:I disagree. Anyone and everyone handling a real gun is responsible for safety. The second you take a gun in your hand, you are responsible.
Nope, it's the job of the props people to make sure props are safe. Not the actors,

Guns are not complicated and safety is not optional. If you use a gun, you own the consequences. No excuses.
<insert profound quote here>
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#53
RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
Exactly, no excuses, go to jail officer friendly!
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#54
RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
(October 28, 2021 at 3:09 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:
(October 28, 2021 at 1:30 pm)Helios Wrote: Nope, it's the job of the props people to make sure props are safe. Not the actors,

Guns are not complicated and safety is not optional. If you use a gun, you own the consequences. No excuses.
I'm not buying this at all.

If you own a gun, every single thing about it is 100% your responsibility, from deciding to own it, to how its stored, what ordinance is around it and in it, and where you point it.

An actor is literally paid to point a gun at things, including the camera.  It isn't their gun, they aren't the ones legally responsible for checking it, and may not have the expertise to identify the prop bullets vs real ones (this gun was loaded with 4 prop bullets, and one real one).

If every actor has to unload the gun, check the bullets, and then reload, then they would need to be trained and registered as the firearms experts legally responsible for every gun in their hands.

That would result in more shootings, not less, so the responsibility is on the armorer and the person under the armorer's supervision that hands the weapon to the actor.  If the actor ever puts down the weapon, it needs to be checked again before going back into an actor's hands.
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#55
RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
Nah, the mean man who made fun of trump is at fault.  There's nothing else to this. Absolutely....nothing......

You're dealing with a person who takes personal offense everytime someone makes fun of some other absolute clown. That's OLB, that's who he is, who he's always been. Enjoy.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#56
RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
Comparing the Universal Oneness of All Life to Yo Mama since 2010.

[Image: harmlesskitchen.png]

I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.
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#57
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#58
RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
But he made fun of the fuhrer, how is that not intentional?

Again, good rule, negligence is a thing I think we should be charging cops with. You too?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#59
RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
Comparing the Universal Oneness of All Life to Yo Mama since 2010.

[Image: harmlesskitchen.png]

I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.
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#60
RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
Why is it so?
~Julius Sumner Miller
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