RE: Why are atheist...atheist?
July 13, 2011 at 9:14 pm
(This post was last modified: July 13, 2011 at 9:36 pm by Alastor.)
(July 13, 2011 at 8:28 pm)DaveD Wrote:(July 13, 2011 at 8:03 pm)Alastor Wrote:(July 13, 2011 at 7:04 pm)DaveD Wrote:(July 13, 2011 at 6:41 pm)Alastor Wrote: As I've said, ignorance is pretending you know what you do not know.
Oh, the irony.
One thing is certainly ironic, atheist are just as prone to sarcasm and close-mindedness as religious people as your cowardice response, and ridiculously immature and offensive signature pic as well, have shown.
If you're referring to anything I've said that implies I think know something, when I know I do not, then back up your remark with a quote and explain how it shows I'm ignorant by my definition.
In your OP in this very thread you made some assumptions about what atheists "believe", and kept waffling about a " choice of atheist to deny the existence of God", and other assorted drivel. You appear to ignore what others tell you, and continue to appear condescending, including calling me a coward.
As for my avatar, you may have given the game away there. You claim not to be religious, but why then would you find it offensive?
This is wrong,
Assuming what atheist believe was based on the definition I read from a dictionary. This is not ignorance because I'm not pretending to know something I know I don't know. Furthermore, this is a terrible example of ignorance because the meaning of a word is relative the one who is using it, regardless of the general consensus a words meaning. This is why one must always fully define any concept one bases an argument on, which is also why I made sure I explained the definition of atheist I was basing this thread on; that way, if the definition was incorrect, and it was, someone could tell me.
You say I ignored what others were telling me. When? In each response I have tried to understand the quotes of those who I have addressed to the best of my ability. If I have misunderstood them, then this would self-evident in my post, but I've not flat out ignored anyone.
If I appear condescending, it is because you are not the first person to make some negative, and unnecessary, baseless claim about me without backing it up. Frankly, its getting annoying. Even though this thread is over, the fact still remains that, in general, if anyone has something to say, then say it constructively. Present your claim, back it up with facts and/or reason, and take out all the unnecessary negative undertones. This is how I originally expected atheist to be, but clearly that is not the case. I've only been here a short time, but I've looked at some of the responses to religious people in other threads and the outward negativity from atheist was somewhat shocking compared to how I expected atheist to act.
Lastly, I never said i was offended by your avatar. I actually found it somewhat funny. Its just that I respect other peoples beliefs, at least, enough to not so outwardly disrespect their God or gods. Despite this being an atheist forum, you must expect and welcome religious users as well, and some of them will be greatly offended.
(July 13, 2011 at 8:39 pm)Ziggystardust Wrote: Well when I find out more about the universe (which is something I do a fair bit of), it confirms my belief there is nothing beyond nature (natural things, forces, and causes of the kind studied by the natural sciences). Hence there is very likely no higher being or god/s. As a consequence of that that we very likely don't have an immaterial soul which survives beyond death. Although I could be wrong and I would be still happy if I were proven wrong. It is not like I have not given this a lot of thought, in fact quite the opposite.
I understand, everyone faces this dilemma to some extent. The choice to believe in God or an afterlife is currently a matter of faith and, possibly, self-discovery which no one could really help you with. However, what "theVOID" said about string theory was interesting. There could possibly be 10^500 possible universes. This has to, in some way, assert the fact that "more we learn, the less we know" and what we currently know may not be much at all. Only thing we can really do is keep searching and sit on bench or pick a team and hope you made the right choice. I currently major in electrical engineering so I don't really have time yet to learn advance physics. I stopped at quantum mechanics.
