Quick Poll - Do you believe in God?

[Little Rik]

So you do know......... that the mind is a function of the brain?
And the evidence is?

The evidence is decades of research, much of which is discussed in both of Dave McRaney's books, which I have mentioned before.  Scientists have mapped out most of the brain, and have learned that various parts of the mind work within specific areas of the brain.  They know that damaging parts of the brain can have significant effects on the personality of people who suffer that damage.  For example, they know that cutting the corpus callosum (which allow the two hemispheres of the brain to communicate) creates some odd behaviors directly linked to the fact that parts of the mind belong to areas of the brain.
This isn't all that new, either; some of this research is more than sixty years old.  So there, that is the evidence.  And there is a great deal of it, and it shows that the mind is a function of the brain.  Your ignorance is a poor excuse in a world where Google and e-readers exist.

Here we are again with the old litany that the mind is a function of the brain.
All the evidence show is that brain and mind are connected in such a way that one can not do without the other.
End of the story.
To get evidence that the mind is a function of the brain is a totally different story.
You know the old story about the chicken and the egg about who come first?
You can bet one i bet the opposite and at the end we are not getting anywhere as the evidence is hard to come
so why not relay on what make more sense and reject what doesn't make? 
Does make sense to say that the driver is the product of the vehicle?
Does make sense to say that a piece of glutinous matter is more important of something abstract?
Who is more important?
The vehicle or the driver?
And most important is.......who start the action first?
The mind or the brain?
Whoever start the action first is the one who control the other.
As simple as this.

Sorry Ton but my analogy kill your believe.
Mind and brain are connected until death occur so it is OBVIOUS that one will affect the other.

You are saying that one will survive the passing of the other.  You offer no evidence for that.  None.  I am saying that it is reasonable to conclude that the mind dies with the brain, and I keep pointing to sources of evidence as support, and you ignore them.  Your insistence on clinging to your delusion does not make it any less of a delusion, nor does it change reality.

I believe that this is the case but i am not saying as a statement.
In this case i would be bound to bring physical evidence.
NDEs bring a lot of evidence in this sense but the evidence that you expect 
is physical evidence not evidence of thousand of NDEs.
In this case is again better relay on what make more sense but my sense is
different from your sense so i guess we are getting nowhere.
By the way my sense is that we build up what we got and to get the consciousness
that we got it takes long long time.
But let me guess what is your sense.
Your sense is that we got the consciousness that we got from previous generation.
And all for free.
How nice Ton is to get something for free.
Ton, please give me the correct lotto number so i can become a millionaire. 

What facts?
You got to be dreaming if you think that you provided any facts.
Yours are none but guessing based on no evidence as i explained above.

I have pointed out the evidence a few times, now.  You don't want to accept it, but your rejection of reality does not change reality.I would point out yet again that you have not offered a shred of evidence for your own claims.  Ignoring the evidence provided while offering none, then pretending to own the high ground, makes you look like either an idiot or a douchebag.

The study that show that brain and mind are connected to each other is not evidence that the mind is a product of the brain.
Get it in mind Ton because the evidence is a different story.  
My claims may not be evidence to you but make a million more sense than your so called evidence.

There is enough evidence to say that until death occur mind and brain are connected in such a way that when one is in trouble the other will suffer as well.
This doesn't mean that the mind is a function of the brain.

In other words, you dismiss the obvious connection because it is inconvenient to your beliefs.  You will accept one conclusion that can be drawn from the facts, then reject the other without any reason or explanation.  I wonder if you're aware of how scared you sound or if the delusion is so deeply ingrained that you simply do not recognize the disconnect.

Researchers that study the brain-mind connection can only work within the physical-mental borders.
The problem however is that the consciousness go well behind these borders therefore these researchers
can not possibly understand how the whole system works. 

UNTIL of course they will penetrate the world of intuitional science.