RE: 'Seeking' God
October 28, 2011 at 11:57 am
(This post was last modified: October 28, 2011 at 11:59 am by ElDinero.)
(October 28, 2011 at 10:47 am)salty Wrote: So, if you have been presented with information about God, you have rejected it, and you are unwilling to defend him it is pointless for you to seek God, because your mind has already decided that God is not present and not worth your time.
With this being the case, why do Christians tell us that we will find God if we seek him? Why, indeed, do you say the same thing below? Why is it in your signature? You plainly know that we have been presented with this 'evidence' (such as it is), and not found it convincing. If you acknowledge that seeking him is pointless, why do atheists continually get told to seek him, and believe he exists first? It is something that cannot be done.
Quote:3. I don't know how long it will take, it depends on your dedication. Every search is different, but without the intention to respond, the search may come up void, in the case of Josh McDowell and Lee Strobel it turned them into Christians, who knows what it will do for you.
I knew this would be the response. This proves my first point completely, by making it an unfalsifiable proposition. 'Go and seek God' you say. 'I tried' I say. 'Obviously not hard enough' you say. It creates this situation where you get to count all the hits, point to them and say 'Look, see! God's grace shines upon another!', but simultaneously allows you to ignore every single miss, by telling the poor seeker that they haven't searched earnestly enough. One of Christianity's greatest ever tricks. Gullible people who already wanted to find something comprise 100% of the hits.
Quote:I wanted to mention that you (El Dinero) already believe strongly that homosexuality is an acceptable act, which you defended intensely in another thread, therefore you have demonstrated that you can control your beliefs, merely by your response. Seek God, with the intention to follow and you will find him.
Could you clarify what you mean here? I'm not sure I follow you. But with regards your final sentence, I will say that I have no intention of seeking or following God, for moral reasons as well as the lack of any evidence. It is simply impossible for me to doublethink in this way. Can you explain how it is possible?