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Disturbed Theist Calls The Atheist Experience
RE: Disturbed Theist Calls The Atheist Experience
My invisible friend talks back to me. You have not made an argument against having an invisible friend, only used childish sounding words to express something that virtually every culture has taken for granted, historically, that there were other entities that exist.
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RE: Disturbed Theist Calls The Atheist Experience
(April 9, 2013 at 3:42 pm)jstrodel Wrote: My invisible friend talks back to me. You have not made an argument against having an invisible friend, only used childish sounding words to express something that virtually every culture has taken for granted, historically, that there were other entities that exist.

Yep, there goes another irony meter, this from the guy that uses 'epistemology' so much as to render it meaningless.

Your invisible friend talks to you? Can you ear yourself as you speak?

ETA: I truly wish you are a poe, but one can't always have what one wants.
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RE: Disturbed Theist Calls The Atheist Experience
(April 9, 2013 at 3:42 pm)jstrodel Wrote: My invisible friend talks back to me.

A swift cuff on the cheek should teach him to mind his manners.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Disturbed Theist Calls The Atheist Experience
I use it because you can't distinguish between adolescent prejudice and philosophy.


If you want a throughout treatment of the relationship between Christian spirituality and epistemology, read this:
http://www.amazon.com/Warranted-Christia...ian+belief

Alvin Plantinga is no slouch at philosophy, having been president of the American Philosophical Association (the main philosophical organization in the US) and having dramatically challenged the philosophy community in the US.


The irony is not that I use epistemology and have an invisible friend, the irony is that you accept your scientific fundamentalism and naturalistic prejudice as real philosophy and attempt to sway others using only psychological techniques designed to make adolescents feel uncomfortable about growing up.

God doesn't talk to me audibly, God talks to me through images, through the Bible, and other people giving me special, prophetic words that confirm specific things going in my life "Your name is Joseph" - 2 days after I prayed about changing my name from Jay to Joseph or "You are the type of person who likes to take a computer apart and put it back together" while I was looking for work as a computer technician.
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RE: Disturbed Theist Calls The Atheist Experience
(April 9, 2013 at 3:54 pm)jstrodel Wrote:


I have it to hand it to you, you can read more than 1 book "The Bible", but to pimp Platinga's books is like just that, taking advantage of a cheap whore. And believe me, being the president of the American Philosophical Association gives him as much credit as the president of American Theology Association.

You speak of adolescence, but you are so filled by your delusion that you cannot see that what you acuse others, you are to blame yourself. Philosophically, Platinga's arguments for gods have so much usefullness as Solipsism ones. You use Philosophy, I do Philosophy, know the fucking difference!
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If you do philosophy, why are all your posts just empty words? Why don't you argue for your points? Do you know the difference between an argument and an insult?

You havn't posted one argument, just references to sex and insults. Why are you such an adolescent? I am not trying to insult you, just wondering, what has gone on in your life that has prevented your from maturing more?


Why do you say being president of the APA gives people no credibility? Would you say that about a member of the National Academy of Sciences or something like that? No, because you aren't a philospher, you are sophist.

You have never gone through what I have, dying to self, giving up every single thing you own to make everything in your life conform to the truth. You have never burned with zeal inside. You probably get some sort of emotional reaction as you debate with people. Because you are not a spiritual person. You are not a philosopher. A philosopher would not insult people the way that you do. You are spiritually an infant. There is no way that you have internalized the real values of philosophy, which involve a terrifying amount of self criticism and honesty and seriousness and response to the fruits of what you do. You have no concept of any of this, you are an adolescent inside, whatever you age. If you took philosophy seriously, you would not just insult people. You would start to understand the spiritual reality of the world, and see there is some sort of higher reality than making yourself feel smart or something like that. You have no higher spiritual reality.

You are a sophist. An empty atheist propagandist, his main weapon is attacks on peoples age. You don't know who I am or what I've been through to know what I know now.

I am not writing what I am writing to try and insult you or get into something like that. I have spiritual discernment. I can tell when people are basically selfish and do what they want and when people live for the truth, whether they are Christian or not. You do not live for the truth. You are selfish inside. Don't talk to me about philosophy, you don't even know what it is. You think it is about sitting around and reading books so you can feel sophisticated. You are an empty person. An empty selfish shell.

You don't know who I am or what I have been through. I know, I can see and smell your pride and arrogance. You don't know me, you guess about what I am. You don't know. You are hardened in your foolish pride. And in the end, you will get what you want. Either you will become a philosopher, and love the truth, or you will remain what you are, and stay the way you are, forever.

If you loved the truth, you would not be the way that you are. You would open your eyes and see your smallness. It would hurt you. Have you ever cried because of your sin? I have many times. You havn't. You are no philosopher, you don't know what that means. You are a coffee table sophist. You don't know what truth is. You think truth is the New York Times bestseller list, something that you can do in your spare time, along with other hobbies and activities, sports, drinking, music, etc.

You don't know who I am or what I have been through to get where I am now. It is my kindness to tell you that there are those out there who are different from you, who are willing to die, and have died for their beliefs, that take the virtues they supposedly hold dear "clarity of thought", "honesty", etc, not as professional values but as life and death absolutes that define them, and are buried so deep inside of them they render all else essentially meaningless.

You are a sophist, a coffee table philosopher. You would not insult me the way that you do if you were not.
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RE: Disturbed Theist Calls The Atheist Experience
That my words are empty to you, I know, and Sophists are known to project into others their sophistry. You look at the APA, the bible, anthing to confirm the delusion you carry. Its so fucking evident, that I wonder if you're a poe, I hope people can't be that... dumb!

Do you have a problem with Fucking cock shit pussy licking titties motherfocking english? Grown men are used to hear vernaculum.
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Not a single argument, just slander, psychologizing.

Do you think I am looking at you right now and I am feeling impressed by you? Do you feel like I am feeling like, perhaps this person knows more than me and I am getting a little bit over my head? Do you think you labeling me delusional has any bearing on whether I believe what I know I have experienced, or I simultaneously know you are a troubled, finite and selfish person, not a lover of truth, a lover of self.

I know this is so. Do you think I am lying?

Do you think there is any shred of respect for you in my mind, as I see you list a bunch of swear words and insult me and use all sort of psuedo-medical terms as you talk about "sophistry" and "using philosophy". Is your mind sharp enough to detect the irony there?
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RE: Disturbed Theist Calls The Atheist Experience
(April 9, 2013 at 4:11 pm)jstrodel Wrote:


Jesus fucking christ! You went through all that text for such a mild insult? Your going meltdown strudel, take a breath, evaluate your christian values, talk to your undetectable friend, chillax. You complained those evil atheists at the AE hung up on you, I'm giving you attention, and having a blast Big Grin

I mean, you lay the trap... to yourself Tongue

As to your veiled insults, you have to do better boyo!
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RE: Disturbed Theist Calls The Atheist Experience
(April 9, 2013 at 4:11 pm)jstrodel Wrote: You are a sophist

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