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RE: Ron Paul might have the most delegates?
February 11, 2012 at 3:15 pm
It's a move that is perfectly legitimate, so again, what is the point of making this about the candidate? He's doing something that is perfectly legal and within the rules. He's done nothing technically wrong, so you have only your opinion to base anything you say about him on, and I'm sure there are plenty of people who are of the opinion that Ron Paul doing this is a good thing.
If you want to solve the problem, focus on the problem itself.
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RE: Ron Paul might have the most delegates?
February 11, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Technically legitimate and "honorably" legitimate are two different things. I believe that is the difference in perspective, here.
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RE: Ron Paul might have the most delegates?
February 11, 2012 at 3:20 pm
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Yes, he hasn't "technically" done anything wrong. Think we went over that already. I don't see the need for the modifier "technically" as a positive. Yes, T, these are my opinions. We are we talking about about politics right? I'm sure there are such people, are you such a person?
Agreed, we should focus on this problem. That doesn't mean I can't focus on the candidate as well, at least give me that. He's a (potential) candidate running for the highest public office in our nation, I think focusing on him is perfectly justified.
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RE: Ron Paul might have the most delegates?
February 11, 2012 at 3:25 pm
Personally, I would find it hilarious if Ron Paul won in this manner. The Republicans support this bs method of election, and I would like to see them get raped by it. This is actually good news because, people will now be aware of this and want to fix the problem, and because Ron Paul will have no chance of winning against Obama.
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RE: Ron Paul might have the most delegates?
February 11, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Of course you can focus on the candidate; I just don't see what good it does in the long run. Anyone can do this; the focus should be on the system and why it should be changed. We'll have to agree to disagree since this discussion is just going round in circles now.
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RE: Ron Paul might have the most delegates?
February 11, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Oh, I don't know, maybe it helps me to decide whether or not he would be a suitable president?
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RE: Ron Paul might have the most delegates?
February 11, 2012 at 3:42 pm
The point is that the long-run isn't the only important thing; the short-term has a huge impact as well. You don't think that the presidency has any impact in the long-run, as well?
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RE: Ron Paul might have the most delegates?
February 11, 2012 at 5:26 pm
(February 11, 2012 at 2:44 pm)5thHorseman Wrote: tbh, you should all be glad that Paul is doing this, he's a 6/4 dog vs Obama and 20% of moderate and far right Republicans say they'd vote Obama if Paul gets the GOP nomination.
So it will be a choice between Obama and Paul, a right winger and an extreme right winger.
Is it possible that I could have a chance of actually voting for a left winger in this country?
What left winger do I have as a voting option in this country?
--as far as Paul even coming CLOSe to winning against Obama - Im not worried one single bit. He will not get it. He is so batshit nutty and extreme in his views that most Republicans (even after Paul packing the delegates) will not gather in enough numbers to elect the necessary number of electoral college members to vote for the pushed candidacy of Paul. so the only way this can really work is if ALL of the Republican candidates for the electoral college are secret Paul supporters as well, and even that will not help him if he cant get enough of them elected.
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RE: Ron Paul might have the most delegates?
February 11, 2012 at 8:04 pm
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(February 11, 2012 at 5:26 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: So it will be a choice between Obama and Paul, a right winger and an extreme right winger.
Is it possible that I could have a chance of actually voting for a left winger in this country?
What left winger do I have as a voting option in this country?
Well Obama may very well lose the nomination (if that ever happens), but the Democratic primaries have nothing to do with the Republican primaries. You're not going to get a left winger out of the Republican party, so your point is completely meaningless. If we want a better president, we'll have to go though the Democratic party. There is nothing to lose from a Republican nominee who can't win, so I'm not sure what your trying to say here...
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RE: Ron Paul might have the most delegates?
February 11, 2012 at 8:18 pm
I think I might vote green party this year.
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