Animals and Humans

[LEDO]

I see parallels with the Garden of Eden story. Eating fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil is the point where the human animal ceases to just live and thinks as well. Thinking is synonymous with taking a step back from fully experiencing. Hence the human condition, hence the need for religion.

A need for religion?? You honestly believe that a woman ate a friut from a magical tree and BAM she suddenly has all this knowlege, this cognitive ability to understand things previously not understood? How is that logical?
And why would you want to take a step back from fully experiencing? Isn't that what life is all about? Experience?

I am going to give you some insight on this topic that only I know, so don't ask me for a source. The tree of life and the tree of knowledge (there were two is you recall) are associated with the constellation of Crater, the cup. This also represents the Holy Grail of Christianity. Legend states drinking from this cup will give knowledge and life (health). Other religions have similar legends about trees and cups. It all comes from the same constellation. And that is what Christmas is all about Charlie Brown.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Hey,

I am also fascinated by anything post-apocolyptica. I read a book last year about the same topic. You are correct, that taken on a larger scale of permanence, my rambling list is not valid. I also agree with your assessment of the future of our race, and with it's impact on the rest of planetary life. In fact, I am not sure why I chose to disagree, maybe I like to argue only for its sake sometimes. Now where did I get that trait?

Thanks Padraic, I apologize for nitpicking.
-Pip

Welcome. Thank you for raising the topic.As a result, I've discovered a whole series from the single documentary I saw,which was shown here as one of.. I've watched the first two episodes.It's quite good,although I think some of the assumptions are a bit tenuous,being apparently arrived at by computer models based on sloppy research. (the segment on parrots is unintentionally hilarious)

[Pippy]

I'll have to look it up. I am piqued by the parrots.
-Pip

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

@Pippy

I've been watching more of the series.

What's clear is that humans would not need to disappear completely, merely reducing the numbers significantly would be enough. Simple neglect would be enough for say Miami Beach to disappear (decades) and the New York subways to fill with water( months)

OR say the Scenario at the end of "The Day The Earth Stood Still":


Everything electrical just stopped working: Planes fell out of the sky,people with pacemakers dropped dead.No computers. No satellites. No cars.No light or air conditioning. Worst of all NO WATER in most cites,as pumping stations would just stop. Cities would become deserted within a few weeks. Decay would start at once at every aspect of society.


Parrots:

I found the articles below interesting.


http://www.petyak.com/dynamic.aspx?id=108


http://ezinearticles.com/?Parrots-Of-The...&id=480675