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Got permabanned at Atheistforums.com
30th September 2012, 23:44
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(30th September 2012 22:04)Tino Wrote:  ...
Are you saying that some were non-deliberately killed (what does that mean, accidentally killed?) or that people were killed individually by gas, or that the Nazis killed no civilians by gas?

Aside from what actually happened, do you agree the Hitler planned or wanted to get rid of all jews and other "undesireables" from Germany?

Maybe he thinks the Jews tripped into the ovens? Facepalm
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30th September 2012, 23:57
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(29th September 2012 10:45)Napoléon Wrote:  Yes. We do need more on area 69 don't we?

Things could be arranged. Lol


Maybe it would balance out the level of bat-shit crazy this thread is giving off.
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1st October 2012, 03:30
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I'm sorry, tell me again how someone like you explains this?


You and a handful of other fucktards are the only ones that know the "real" story right? [Image: facepalm.gif]
If the only thing keeping a person decent is the expectation of divine reward than brother, that person is a piece of shit.

AND we have yet another christard doing the kind of verbal gymnastics and mental contortions that would make a pretzel barf. [Image: Cherna-facepalm.gif]
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1st October 2012, 12:29
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(30th September 2012 22:04)Tino Wrote:  
(30th September 2012 17:20)Notary Public Wrote:  Worked to death or killed by sickness and starvation? I'd say a couple of hundred thousand.

Let's say you're right (you're not, but let's go with it for now) that the Nazi's killed 200,000 civilians either by overworking or starving them. Isn't that enough to be a holocaust? If not, what's your number?

(30th September 2012 17:20)Notary Public Wrote:  Deliberately killed en masse in gas chambers? None.

Are you saying that some were non-deliberately killed (what does that mean, accidentally killed?) or that people were killed individually by gas, or that the Nazis killed no civilians by gas?

Aside from what actually happened, do you agree the Hitler planned or wanted to get rid of all jews and other "undesireables" from Germany?

What sickens me about his argument is "it was only 100,000". What the fuck?

I don't give a shit if it was 100 Muslims or blacks or atheists or 100,000 Muslims blacks or Jews. The reason we still have genocide committed in Africa by both Christians and Muslims against is because of morons like this making labels the issue rather than genocide being the issue.

For the same reason Hitler was able to convince Germans Jews were bad is the same reason Muslims and Christians in Africa still murder each other. Our stupid tribalistic evolution gets turned into a comic book strive to be the alpha male under the false guise of "chosen people". Hitler thought Germans were special and chosen.

Until that insidious meme dies humans will continually look for ways to prop up their political and religious labels above the scientific reality that we have never stopped being the same species.

The lesson of the Holocaust should be the same as the lesson of the slavery of blacks, the genocide of Native Americans and the current genocide going on in Africa. Getting into numbers and labels games is a deadly distraction and does humanity no good at all.
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1st October 2012, 12:38
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This thread makes me want to vomit on a puppy.
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1st October 2012, 15:29 (This post was last modified: 1st October 2012 15:36 by Stimbo.)
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(30th September 2012 17:20)Notary Public Wrote:  
(30th September 2012 17:06)Tino Wrote:  In your view, to what extent did it happen? How many civilians were deliberately put to death by the Nazis?.

Deliberately killed en masse in gas chambers? None. Worked to death or killed by sickness and starvation? I'd say a couple of hundred thousand.

Two words for you: Wannsee Conference. Under Secretary Martin Luther's minutes of the conference can be found here.

(1st October 2012 12:38)frankiej Wrote:  This thread makes me want to vomit on a puppy.

And then say "I don't remember eating that"?
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1st October 2012, 15:35
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Quote:For the same reason Hitler was able to convince Germans Jews were bad is the same reason Muslims and Christians in Africa still murder each other. Our stupid tribalistic evolution gets turned into a comic book strive to be the alpha male under the false guise of "chosen people". Hitler thought Germans were special and chosen.

Until that insidious meme dies humans will continually look for ways to prop up their political and religious labels above the scientific reality that we have never stopped being the same species.

Like the atheists are the special chosen people ("brights") nowadays?
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1st October 2012, 15:47 (This post was last modified: 1st October 2012 16:32 by Whatkins.)
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(1st October 2012 15:35)CliveStaples Wrote:  Like the atheists are the special chosen people ("brights") nowadays?

That term only relates to the promotion of a naturalist worldview ( via a "bright" mind). As it happens, I find the term nauseating. If you know the first thing about it, then you know it has garnered criticism from believers and nonbelievers alike.
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1st October 2012, 15:53
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Indeed. Brights can be atheists; atheists are not necessarily Brights. It might interest you to know that non-deity religious people can also be Brights.
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3rd October 2012, 18:11
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Well what difference does it make?

Hitler was only killing the races that plague this world.
Gypsies, Jews, slavs, they are nothing but bad news.

Mass deportation and then separatism would have been a bit more humane, I agree.
But funny how people say Hitler is the bad guy when he was driving away all the pests that are currently infesting modern day Europe.

Now watch as all the bleeding heart liberals jump up and shout "MUH DIVERSITY" and "MUH TOLERANCE."
One day you will learn that there are some cultures and races that are truly scum.

I believe in nationalism. Each country for its own people, if gypsies and Jews didn't invade Germany, Hitler wouldn't have had to exterminate them.
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