Questions for both sides.

[Something completely different]

Atheists: I have three questions.
1. Is there an organized group of atheists that has a global presence?

Nein

2. For what reason do you go about and try to disprove the beliefs of the theists?

I dont

3. Isn't the belief/knowledge that there is without a doubt no God/gods also faith based? ( I don't just mean the Christian God, but the existence of higher beings in general, and please don't bring up the stupid flying spaghetti monster argument).

Nein

[Zen Badger]

1. Is there an organized group of atheists that has a global presence?

Ever tried herding cats?

2. For what reason do you go about and try to disprove the beliefs of the theists?
Only when they try to supplant hard scientific fact with their fairytales. Apart from that I don't give a flying fuck what they want to believe.

3. Isn't the belief/knowledge that there is without a doubt no God/gods also faith based? ( I don't just mean the Christian God, but the existence of higher beings in general, and please don't bring up the stupid flying spaghetti monster argument).

No, absence of belief in something for which there is no evidence is simple common sense. Do you believe in unicorns? Why not? Is non belief in unicorns faith based, or merely recognition of the fact that there is no good reason to believe in something for which there is no evidence.

[Metallica]

Atheists: I have three questions.
1. Is there an organized group of atheists that has a global presence?
2. For what reason do you go about and try to disprove the beliefs of the theists?
3. Isn't the belief/knowledge that there is without a doubt no God/gods also faith based? ( I don't just mean the Christian God, but the existence of higher beings in general, and please don't bring up the stupid flying spaghetti monster argument).

1) I don't know

2) I don't care about what people believe but I'm not happy when the say stupid things against sciences, racists things, when they approve violence, rape, when they tell me I'm going to hell, when they want to exclude pork in cafeteria school, when they attack policemen who ask to remove burqas, etc, etc.

3) I would simply reply that atheism is a faith if the absence of sugar in my coffee is a taste
(ps : I think the Flying Spaghetti Monster is a very good argument anyway)

[Confused Ape]

1. Is there an organized group of atheists that has a global presence?
2. For what reason do you go about and try to disprove the beliefs of the theists?
3. Isn't the belief/knowledge that there is without a doubt no God/gods also faith based? ( I don't just mean the Christian God, but the existence of higher beings in general, and please don't bring up the stupid flying spaghetti monster argument).

1: There are atheist movements in various countries but each movement is concerned with issues specific to the countries. For example, these are the aims of atheists in the US.

http://www.atheistrev.com/2012/01/atheis...-2012.html

Atheists living in countries where there's no anti-atheist bigotry won't be making a stand against anti-atheist bigotry.

2: Not all atheists go about trying to disprove theists' beliefs. Some atheists believe in religious tolerance although this doesn't mean they tolerate everything done in the name of religion. They don't tolerate everything done in the name of politics or industry, either.

3: I think this relates to the Spectrum of theistic probability.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrum_of...robability

6: De facto atheist. Very low probability, but short of zero. "I don't know for certain but I think God is very improbable, and I live my life on the assumption that he is not there."

7: Strong atheist. "I know there is no God, with the same conviction as Jung knows there is one."

Dawkins argues that while there appear to be plenty of individuals that would place themselves as "1" due to the strictness of religious doctrine against doubt, most atheists do not consider themselves "7" because atheism arises from a lack of evidence and evidence can always change a thinking person's mind. In print, Dawkins self-identified as a '6', though when interviewed by Bill Maher[3] and later by Anthony Kenny,[4] he suggested '6.9' to be more accurate.

Some atheists do rate themselves as 7, though. If they claim they KNOW God doesn't exist it's technically a belief because, as yet, there is no concrete scientific proof for the non-existence of any deity. The way I see it, atheists have to be very careful how they answer questions about their views because it's all too easy to give the wrong impression.

[KichigaiNeko]

Atheists: I have three questions.

My first is who are you??

1. Is there an organized group of atheists that has a global presence?

None that I am aware of

2. For what reason do you go about and try to disprove the beliefs of the theists?

Because the theistic version of reality is fallacious and detrimental to the development of mankind

3. Isn't the belief/knowledge that there is without a doubt no God/gods also faith based? ( I don't just mean the Christian God, but the existence of higher beings in general, and please don't bring up the stupid flying spaghetti monster argument).

Short answer is No.

The Flying Spaghetti Monster is just as valid as the abrahamic god.

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Do I put you on ignore now, as a shallow poe or troublesome theist?

[TaraJo]

Atheists: I have three questions.
1. Is there an organized group of atheists that has a global presence?
2. For what reason do you go about and try to disprove the beliefs of the theists?
3. Isn't the belief/knowledge that there is without a doubt no God/gods also faith based? ( I don't just mean the Christian God, but the existence of higher beings in general, and please don't bring up the stupid flying spaghetti monster argument).

1) There are several atheist groups, but I don't think any of them have any unifying presence or beliefs.

2) Generally, I don't. My rule is, if theists don't preach their religion to me, I won't mock their beliefs to them. So, unless and until they preach to me, I just let them believe anything they want.

3) Yes, if I were a 7 on the Dawkins Scale, there would be some amount of belief on that. But I'm not. I'm honestly open minded about the idea of a God and if good evidence is provided, I'll believe it. So far, none has been provided.

[Kayenneh]

Atheists: I have three questions.
1. Is there an organized group of atheists that has a global presence?
2. For what reason do you go about and try to disprove the beliefs of the theists?
3. Isn't the belief/knowledge that there is without a doubt no God/gods also faith based? ( I don't just mean the Christian God, but the existence of higher beings in general, and please don't bring up the stupid flying spaghetti monster argument).

1. No. Some claim that there are prominent atheist groups, and though all the members might be atheists, the thing that brings them together usually have something to do with e.g. political agendas.

2. I don't. They are entitled to practice their faith if they want to.

3. No. R'hllor, Huan or Cthulhu are merely characters in books, why should Jehovah, Yahweh or Allah be any different?

[genkaus]

1. Is there an organized group of atheists that has a global presence?

Does this site count?

2. For what reason do you go about and try to disprove the beliefs of the theists?

I don't go about doing that. I only try it when theists come to me.

3. Isn't the belief/knowledge that there is without a doubt no God/gods also faith based?

Not if it is based on reason.

[KichigaiNeko]

Oh and ...this is your introduction thread?

[paulpablo]

I noticed a lot of people saying theres no organised group of atheists with a global presence which i dont understand, this forum is an organised group of mainly atheists, and it isnt hard to establish a global presense if you take into consideration the internet is global, the atheist experience people are a group of atheists who are organised enough to establish a tv show and theyre on youtube