Does Death Exist? New Theory Says ‘No’

[Confused Ape]

I looked Robert Lanza to see who he is.

Robert Paul Lanza (born 11 February 1956) is an American Doctor of Medicine, scientist, Chief Scientific Officer of Advanced Cell Technology (ACT)[1] and Adjunct Professor at the Institute for Regenerative Medicine, Wake Forest University School of Medicine.

Institutions Advanced Cell Technology Wake Forest University School of Medicine
Alma mater University of Pennsylvania
Known for Stem cell biology, cloning,
tissue engineering, biocentrism

I then found articles he's written about biocentrism but I'll only post two of them.

Is There a God or Is There Nothingness? New Scientific Paradigm.

Religion vs. Science's Answers to the Big Questions.

I got the impression that he was unable to believe in any religion but couldn't cope with the death of people he cared about. He then turned to quantum physics for a comforting belief system. He's now a part of Deepak Chopra's New Age movement.

Lanza And Chopra On Evolution.

[EGross]

Chopra - ugh. Thanks for pointing that one out.

Personally, I have, in the past done a null meditation, meaning, trying to imaging myself 1 second before death, and what that would feel like. I find it very mercurial, and as I would get close, the mind runs away. It's a fight with the mind to get to the point where it's end is resisted. Sometimes, I experience dread, and sometimes (and rarely) a quiet. But it is the one thing in the universe that everyone will have to experience in the end. The fact that we may fear it, resist it, or want an alternative (a friend of mine in the USA, some years ago paid to have his head frozen after death. Whenever I see that on Futurama, I always think of him! He still lives, BTW).

The fanciful idea of a supernatural place where everyone speaks English, has all of their limbs, their alzheimer's is cured, and they no longer need Viagra, is a nice fantasy. Or as Ned Flanders said when he went to Hell, "I spent all of that money on harp lessons for nothing!"

In Judaism, the older belief (one echoed by David in Psalm 6:5 "For in death there is no rememberance of you", or better yet, the anonymous author in Ecclesiates 9:5 where it says "For the dead know nothing at all"), is that at the end of it all, the switch is turned off, and you are nullified in a "well of souls" (shoel), so to speak, who know nothing.

The idea of the "resurrection of the dead" was a much later Rabbinical add on, which means, when it is all over, you will rise up into a new world and start all over. It wasn't a heaven, but "Hey, don't worry, when you die, it all goes black, but in what will seem like an instant later, that switch is turned back on and you get to start over.

Christianity comes and has their Heaven, and Judaism changes as well to compete, so by the 4th century CE the souls are always awake and aware, but they can't participate, and you have other places for them to hang out (Gan Eden), waiting for the ressurection at the end of days. And this belief in this new ending is that "One who declares that there is no resurrection of the dead, has no share in the world to come". And one who does not believe that the "world to come" is in the Torah is called an Apikoris. The religious people dare not speak against it, and believe in some hopeful metaphysical future.

In other words, the story goes from very bleak, to something hopeful. It evolves and changes, because the end is scary. And selling hope is much of what religion is all about. And if you cannot find it, then make it up. And as Stephen Frye would say:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i65d5oALHJ4

[Brian37]

Someone has been watching Star Wars too much.

It sickens me when theists us the argument of thermodynamics but this is the same trap you have fallen for.

First off there is more than one law of thermodynamics.

Secondly the energy from our decay does not leave our brain structure in place so we ARE dead and what was us, as individuals DOES NOT continue on.

Woo is woo and I hate it when atheists fall for it even more.

[Phish]

Someone has been watching Star Wars too much.

It sickens me when theists us the argument of thermodynamics but this is the same trap you have fallen for.

First off there is more than one law of thermodynamics.

Secondly the energy from our decay does not leave our brain structure in place so we ARE dead and what was us, as individuals DOES NOT continue on.

Woo is woo and I hate it when atheists fall for it even more.

Well i said before that i hope that death is the last stage,and nothing more. But i don't know where does our energy from the body go when we die.Does it turn into soil or something else

[Confused Ape]

Well i said before that i hope that death is the last stage,and nothing more. But i don't know where does our energy from the body go when we die.Does it turn into soil or something else

I haven't a clue because I've never been dead past the point of no return. Nobody has, including those who insist there is something after death and those who insist there's nothing.

[Phish]

Well i said before that i hope that death is the last stage,and nothing more. But i don't know where does our energy from the body go when we die.Does it turn into soil or something else

I haven't a clue because I've never been dead past the point of no return. Nobody has, including those who insist there is something after death and those who insist there's nothing.

so the best thing to do is to not worry about this because sometimes i think about it and it really messes me up.

-Do you avoid such questions,and how?

-So is the point of life that we enjoy it just right (not to much not to less).

- If there is life after death,will i find my old friends again? (sorry just had to put this question in)

-If a parallel universe exists and if i'm nice in this universe does this mean i'm mean in the other one?


-Thanks

(it's strange that only i think about such questions i didn't found a 15 years old who messes his head up with such stupid questions,is this normal?)

[Faith No More]

-Do you avoid such questions,and how?

No, I think it's best to embrace them. Even when I was much younger than you I was trying to wrap my head around death, and the idea scared the shit out of me. Thinking about it enough allowed me to find peace with the idea of death, regardless of what lie beyond.

-So is the point of life that we enjoy it just right (not to much not to less).

And to do our best to make sure others enjoy it, too.

- If there is life after death,will i find my old friends again? (sorry just had to put this question in)

That's a mighty big "if" there, but if there is life after death, it could very well not resemble this one in the slightest.

-If a parallel universe exists and if i'm nice in this universe does this mean i'm mean in the other one?

What is the sound of one hand clapping?

-Thanks

You're welcome.

(it's strange that only i think about such questions i didn't found a 15 years old who messes his head up with such stupid questions,is this normal?)

It is normal in the sense that you are not mentally ill, but it isn't normal in the sense that it is a ubiquitous trait among teenagers. My advice is to try and find some friends that do think about such things.

[EGross]

My grandfather was "medically dead" for about 2-3 minutes. After they brought him home, I asked him what he saw. Bright light? Family? "Nope - didn't see nothin'" - You sure? I mean, all of the people on TV talk about a big light? "They don't know nothin'. Wasn't no light. Wasn't nothin'"

He died a year or so later, and he has yet to tell me that there is anything else.

[Napoléon]

Does it turn into soil or something else

We'll return to the stars bro. That's way more interesting to me than living in some shitty place in the clouds.

After that? We'll suffer the same fate the rest of the universe suffers, whatever that may be.

[Whateverist]

LOL this guy is persistent, isn't he?

He sure goes to a lot of trouble to say not very much.