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The Problem With Atheism
#11
RE: The Problem With Atheism
Bitch, you think I'm gonna read all that text? Not unless I'm getting college credit for that shit. Daaaaaaaaayum.

Actually, who am I kidding? I don't even do the reading if it is part of a college class. I HAVE ADHD LEAVE ME ALONE
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#12
RE: The Problem With Atheism
It's a unfortunate fact of the world we live in, as religion dies off the term will fall out of usage.
You see we are of a need to redefine ourselves from the majority that are religious.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#13
RE: The Problem With Atheism
(August 29, 2013 at 5:57 pm)pocaracas Wrote: If we lived in a world where something like 80% of the population were racist, then I guess... yes!
I think you should reconsider this statement and think if such a thing was in fact true at some point in time without the term Aracist being needed to change it. As for the baggage? Do you think it would have carried negative baggage when wandering through confederate states, telling people you were an Aracist? I think you're set on arguing this point with me, but not really getting the gist of the message.
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#14
RE: The Problem With Atheism
(September 1, 2013 at 8:06 am)Texas Sailor Wrote:
(August 29, 2013 at 5:57 pm)pocaracas Wrote: If we lived in a world where something like 80% of the population were racist, then I guess... yes!
I think you should reconsider this statement and think if such a thing was in fact true at some point in time without the term Aracist being needed to change it. As for the baggage? Do you think it would have carried negative baggage when wandering through confederate states, telling people you were an Aracist? I think you're set on arguing this point with me, but not really getting the gist of the message.
I'm not american, so I don't fully get that "confederate" reference! Tongue
Is it just a fully racist state? One where everyone is racist... the few people who aren't could be called aracist... but it seems those were just called "nigger lovers", or something like that...
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#15
RE: The Problem With Atheism
(September 1, 2013 at 8:33 am)pocaracas Wrote: I'm not american, so I don't fully get that "confederate" reference! Tongue
Is it just a fully racist state? One where everyone is racist... the few people who aren't could be called aracist... but it seems those were just called "nigger lovers", or something like that...

Fair enough. The confederates were a group of states that, among other things, still supported slavery. They were predominantly Christian too, but that's just an interesting side note. The term "nigger lover" would be an example of the type of baggage that could follow from an unnecessary term such a Aracist. Racism is a bad idea, one need not give themselves a title to denote that they stand on a particular side against a bad idea. Let's just be against bad ideas! Look at how many threads on here are dedicated to the definition of Atheism. Watch a few debates online and see how many times things are said such as "Atheism is not true." What??

Religions are bad ideas. Beliefs in them, equally so. Atheism is nothing more than a byproduct of being rational in the midst of hearing an irrational idea. Why do we need videos like this:



Yet, we have them! I think that just challenging bad ideas when they are presented to us is what is necessary to rid our society of another bad idea. Slavery in America, and racism as a whole was just as prominent as religion at some point, and it was taboo to say anything against it. But now, the taboo is saying something in support of that idea, not pointing out the cruelty in it.

In society, the taboo is challenging religion. Religion is a bad idea that is benign from scrutiny, yet it's the cause of so much destruction. The term Atheism seems to be a distraction, and it's not what the battle is over. The battle is over WHY atheism needs to be a word at all. It draws an unnecessary line in the sand. Atheists on one side, Theists on the other. That's not what needs to be debated. The debate is over good ideas vs. bad ones. And what is the making of a bad idea? That needs to get discussed. We live in a time where you can be smart enough to obtain a PHD in Biology, and yet still believe Jesus was born from a virgin mother! These are people who are otherwise quite intelligent. But, they are convinced of some really bad ideas. There are good ways to discern truths, and bad ones. This is what needs to be discussed. Not whether or not Atheists eat babies. That's an absurd distraction to an otherwise productive conversation.
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#16
RE: The Problem With Atheism
I understand what you're saying... but I'd go one bad idea at a time.
One such bad idea is theism... yes.
Now, how to convince the majority of the world's population that their favorite delusion is a bad idea?
How to make them see that the notion that keeps them mentally sane or, at least, keeps them "not depressed" is bad?
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#17
RE: The Problem With Atheism
Another example of a bad idea...






(September 1, 2013 at 9:12 am)pocaracas Wrote: I understand what you're saying... but I'd go one bad idea at a time.
One such bad idea is theism... yes.
Now, how to convince the majority of the world's population that their favorite delusion is a bad idea?
How to make them see that the notion that keeps them mentally sane or, at least, keeps them "not depressed" is bad?

Yes...Those are important questions. I just think the term Atheism is an unnecessary distraction to finding answers to those questions. It's a complicated problem.

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#18
RE: The Problem With Atheism
(September 1, 2013 at 9:18 am)Texas Sailor Wrote: Another example of a bad idea...




That strikes me as the same bad idea! Wink

(September 1, 2013 at 9:18 am)Texas Sailor Wrote:
(September 1, 2013 at 9:12 am)pocaracas Wrote: I understand what you're saying... but I'd go one bad idea at a time.
One such bad idea is theism... yes.
Now, how to convince the majority of the world's population that their favorite delusion is a bad idea?
How to make them see that the notion that keeps them mentally sane or, at least, keeps them "not depressed" is bad?

Yes...Those are important questions. I just think the term Atheism is an unnecessary distraction to finding answers to those questions.
So what should we call people who do not believe the same non-sense as all those believers in gods?
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#19
RE: The Problem With Atheism
(September 1, 2013 at 9:31 am)pocaracas Wrote:
(September 1, 2013 at 9:18 am)Texas Sailor Wrote: Another example of a bad idea...




That strikes me as the same bad idea! Wink

(September 1, 2013 at 9:18 am)Texas Sailor Wrote: Yes...Those are important questions. I just think the term Atheism is an unnecessary distraction to finding answers to those questions.
So what should we call people who do not believe the same non-sense as all those believers in gods?

People! That's all they are! Even saying they're atheists doesn't explain much about their beliefs anymore than calling someone a theist does. A Theist can mean any number of things. We don't know what needs to get discussed until the ideas are presented. The title of the person sharing them is really quite irrelevant. Don't ya think?
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#20
RE: The Problem With Atheism
I am certain the original post is interesting in its own right, but I never read anything that long unless it is in paperback form and goes by the title of popular modern fiction.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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