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An Untitled Serious Adventure Drama
#21
RE: An Untitled Serious Adventure Drama
no, I really will. I really really will Mister Herman. I just had my nails to paint! then my toes Tongue
And now I'm on my phone which doesn't like to long post. But its coming, a very real and in depth review and feedback (I'm a theatre fan and a writer myself). In the meantime, please introduce yourself to me, give me some background.. I've yet to run across you on here before.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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#22
RE: An Untitled Serious Adventure Drama
Sort of reminds me of the story of Alice and the Queen of Hearts - with a touch of 1984, "ignorance is bliss" thrown in.

I think the story works better if you reverse the roles. Make the Queen Christian and the intruders Atheist - unless you are aiming at high farce in which case you should probably have made the Queen, a cross-dressing King.

To be honest - bit too long, bit too boring - sorry. Most of the themes are worked to death and once we've got the role reversal of the fantasy (that its the theists that have the evidence and the atheists that are denying it) there are no surprises.

I don't get the relevance of the 9.95 gadget at the end. We already know, in the farce, that the Queen, courtiers et al are nuts. In Alice the Queen may ultimately meet her comeuppance but she really never understands how or why - the gadget providing wisdom (?) wouldn't work on them.
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#23
RE: An Untitled Serious Adventure Drama
It's ok to say it sucked monkey nuts, Max...no need to take the high road.
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#24
RE: An Untitled Serious Adventure Drama
(October 8, 2013 at 4:01 am)missluckie26 Wrote: ... its coming, a very real and in depth review and feedback (I'm a theatre fan and a writer myself).

Great! I like a person who will take the time to think.

Quote:In the meantime, please introduce yourself to me, give me some background.. I've yet to run across you on here before.

You'll find that here:

http://atheistforums.org/thread-20447.html

(October 8, 2013 at 4:22 am)max-greece Wrote: Sort of reminds me of the story of Alice and the Queen of Hearts - with a touch of 1984, "ignorance is bliss" thrown in.

Well, thank you! That's excellent. Except the Queen of Hearts is quite, quite mad.

Quote:To be honest - bit too long, bit too boring - sorry.

Are you kidding--it's barely 2000 words. If that's all you can take, imagine having to sit through a full-length film!

Quote:Most of the themes are worked to death

Examples, please.

Quote:once we've got the role reversal of the fantasy (that its the theists that have the evidence and the atheists that are denying it) there are no suprises.

Actually, there's no "role reversal" here. It's just present-day reality extrapolated 150 years into the future. By then atheism will have retreated to an insular little Queendom protected by strong-arm guards.

Quote:I don't get the relevance of the 9.95 gadget at the end.

Ah, the Baloney Detector! These were finally perfected in the late 21st Century. You could pick one up for under $12,000 american (except you'd be paying in Chinese currency). By the mid-22nd century the technology had developed enough so that the price was affordable on a monastic budget.

There were prototypes already in the mid-20th century--for those who had access to well-funded labs. Astronomer Carl Sagan had one in his Baloney Detection Kit. Didn't work very well, tho'. Couldn't detect the baloney in his Baloney Detection Kit.

Quote: ... the Queen, courtiers et al are nuts.

Not the Queen! The Queen is the only one willing to follow evidence and reason! How nuts is that?

And I've been thinking that Mean Ol' Ikey is pretty sane too. I think he goes into these socratic trances (although everyone just thinks he's nutz). He'll be in a trace at the end of this scene and two of his fellow soldiers (who of course know him well) will take him gently by the arms and escort him off, one on each side. At the crucial half-way point he'll surprise us all by turning out to be very thoughtful and articulate. I'm thinking he'll charge Alienne, Queen of the Atheists with betraying atheism.

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