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Poll: Regarding the Book of Revelations found in the Bible ....
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I believe that Revelations must be translated literally and that such stories of a seven-headed beast rising from the sea and the four horseman are going to be very real and exactly that.
5.71%
 2 5.71%
I believe that Revelations is partially literal and partially alligorical.
5.71%
 2 5.71%
I believe either the large majority or the whole of Revelations is allegorical. I don't believe that beasts from hell will be running around devouring people up.
11.43%
 4 11.43%
If you're left behind after the rapture, you are going to witness terrifying monsters for real!
2.86%
 1 2.86%
Revelations is the ramblings of a primitive lunatic. Stop asking silly questions Cinjin!
74.29%
 26 74.29%
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#31
RE: Revelations
October 30, 2013 at 9:17 pm
(October 30, 2013 at 8:56 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Technically that's a toad's tool. Or something.

Are they different things? Huh
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#32
RE: Revelations
October 30, 2013 at 10:26 pm
(October 30, 2013 at 8:06 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: What's so bad about mushrooms?

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#33
RE: Revelations
October 31, 2013 at 5:42 am
(October 30, 2013 at 1:57 pm)Darwinian Wrote: There are two aren't there? The O.T. God and the N.T. God.. I mean they are clearly completely different characters!

I think the argument could easily be made that the god in the OT is actually several different gods. El Shaddai, Elohim and Yahweh are all names used for god in the OT. The trouble is that the first two names are plurals.

I have also read from various sources that the original god of the OT, El, was part of the Caananite pantheon of gods. A brief search found an article that goes into it in more detail:

Are Yahweh and El the same god OR different gods?
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#34
RE: Revelations
October 31, 2013 at 6:35 am
(October 30, 2013 at 9:17 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(October 30, 2013 at 8:56 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Technically that's a toad's tool. Or something.

Are they different things? Huh

I'm not a mycologist, so I wouldn't really know. I believe mushrooms generally refer to edible fungi, but I'm reminded of the sage words of Sir Terry Pratchett:

1. All mushrooms are edible.
2. Some mushrooms are not edible more than once.
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RE: Revelations
October 31, 2013 at 8:28 pm
One of the only parts of the Bible not rooted in historical fact that I take literally. I guess that's because it has yet to pass so you could argue either way.
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RE: Revelations
October 31, 2013 at 10:51 pm
(October 31, 2013 at 8:28 pm)Polaris Wrote: One of the only parts of the Bible not rooted in historical fact that I take literally. I guess that's because it has yet to pass so you could argue either way.

So this book gets special consideration from you only because it speaks of things to come?

So the burning bush was allegorical but the seven headed beast is literal? How can you make the distinction?
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RE: Revelations
October 31, 2013 at 11:02 pm
(October 31, 2013 at 10:51 pm)Cinjin Wrote: How can you make the distinction?

Gotta want to.
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#38
RE: Revelations
October 31, 2013 at 11:10 pm
Revelation was written by John of Patmos, an island known for its hallucinogenic mushrooms.

Not much more to explain, really.

But if you must read revelation, here's the best resource:
http://www.thebricktestament.com/revelation/index.html

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RE: Revelations
October 31, 2013 at 11:17 pm
I know that tradition says John of Patmos wrote this stuff, but - and here my prophet sense is tingling - is there anything by way of actual supporting evidence for it?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Revelations
October 31, 2013 at 11:20 pm (This post was last modified: October 31, 2013 at 11:22 pm by Cinjin.)
The funny thing about Revelations is that people expect us to somehow treat this book differently. I'm not a subscriber to your ENTIRE book silly Christian. Revelations has no more significance to me than the book of Exodus. You are NEVER going to see four supernatural horsemen riding around Nebraska causing havic and prepping the world for destruction. And you SURE as HELL are never going to see a man floating in the sky calling for your soul and all the other dead christards ahead of you. Undecided
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