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RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
December 7, 2013 at 3:40 pm
(December 7, 2013 at 3:38 pm)Faith No More Wrote: You should stop before you hurt yourself trying to think too hard.
He's trying to think? Sure had me fooled.
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RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
December 7, 2013 at 3:43 pm
(This post was last modified: December 7, 2013 at 3:53 pm by Simon Moon.)
(December 7, 2013 at 3:17 pm)Sleepy Wrote: One of the illogical things about atheists is their belief in relativity in everything. There is no absolutes in anything.
Some may believe killing is bad, others it's ok( evolutionary asserting your dominance)
Rape is bad, rape is ok( dominant mammal satisfying sexual desire)
In fact the latter of the two is most in line with atheists as they love to talk about evolutionary adaptations.
So why can't humans rape? Any atheists that condemn rape first of all are going against relativism and assuming there should absolutely be no rape. According to whom? According to whom should there be no rape?
The answer is clear, Allah prohibits rape. The penalty is death.
Atheists live in contradictions, relativity is the foundation of atheisms while many atheists are 'condemning' rape. Rape is jus another action relative to that individual. So it's illogical for atheists to condemn it.
Islam= Probibits rape
Atheists= rape is ok to some and bad to some
Atheist responses- it's bad. You can't force somebody.
Why not? Why is it 'bad'? What's wrong with a male spreading his genes through dominating a weaker individual. Survival of the fittest right? Why is it 'wrong'?
I get the idea that you don't know what you are talking about, but your posts are so incoherent, that it's kind of hard to tell.
By the way, Sweden, a country with the highest percentage atheist population in the world, once had an average number rape cases for Europe.
Interesting that the Swedish rape rates increased as they allowed more Muslim emigration. Just a coincidence, I'm sure 
"In 2003, Sweden’s rape statistics were higher than average at 9.24, but in 2005 they shot up to 36.8 and by 2008 were up to 53.2. Now they are almost certainly even higher as Muslim immigrants continue forming a larger percentage of the population.
With Muslims represented in as many as 77 percent of the rape cases and a major increase in rape cases paralleling a major increase in Muslim immigration, the wages of Muslim immigration are proving to be a sexual assault epidemic by a misogynistic ideology."
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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Re: Atheists condone and condemn rape
December 7, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Oh fuck off, sleepy. There are several pages on that other thread where you argue that rape is fine. You even said a woman is "sinning" if she fucking objects, and that you intend to rape a woman yourself.
If you deny that, I can link you to the posts, if you like?
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RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
December 7, 2013 at 4:12 pm
I don't think I've ever seen anyone fail so hard!
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RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
December 7, 2013 at 4:25 pm
I didn't know people could even be this stupid..
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RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
December 7, 2013 at 4:28 pm
Sleepy, you really don't know what atheism is do you? The one and only thing that makes you an atheist is your disbelief in god. NOTHING MORE. There is no other ideology attached to atheism. I have no clue where you are getting this whole relativism thing from. Its just straw man after straw man.
I certainly don't believe in moral relativism. I think one human raping another will always be bad. I think a person killing another for no reason, will always be bad. But my views aren't absolutism either. I don't think killing is bad in general. Only when killing is not warranted. I only think rape is bad when humans do it.
We can explore my views if you want, it would certainly be more interesting than you barfing out straw men at us
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RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
December 7, 2013 at 4:32 pm
(This post was last modified: December 7, 2013 at 4:32 pm by Fidel_Castronaut.)
(December 7, 2013 at 3:17 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Why not? Why is it 'bad'? What's wrong with a male spreading his genes through dominating a weaker individual. Survival of the fittest right? Why is it 'wrong'?
Please assume the position.
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RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
December 7, 2013 at 4:42 pm
Actually, as an atheist I can assure you we don't think rape is okay, nor have I ever met an atheist who condones rape. There are very good reasons to condemn rape from an anti-theistic & scientific viewpoint. Also, you have made it clear that you do condone marital rape, so I think you just proved Freud's theory of projection.
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RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
December 7, 2013 at 5:13 pm
Sleepy, you get raped every time you try to argue
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RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
December 7, 2013 at 5:20 pm
(December 7, 2013 at 5:13 pm)Optimistic Mysanthrope Wrote: Sleepy, you get raped every time you try to argue
I feel raped every time I read one of his posts.
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