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RE: Pope fires cardinal who is outspoken critic of gay marriage and abortion
December 19, 2013 at 5:10 pm
I want to like this pope, but the cynic in me says to keep waiting for the other shoe to drop.
And I realize that such an entrenched institution can only take gradual changes lest the entire organization crumble, but a lot of these changes seem to be cosmetic at best.
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RE: Pope fires cardinal who is outspoken critic of gay marriage and abortion
December 19, 2013 at 5:43 pm
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(December 19, 2013 at 5:10 pm)Faith No More Wrote: I want to like this pope, but the cynic in me says to keep waiting for the other shoe to drop.
And I realize that such an entrenched institution can only take gradual changes lest the entire organization crumble, but a lot of these changes seem to be cosmetic at best.
Most religion IS cosmetic. It's something to do once a week, or as a ritual at mealtimes, or as a persona one uses to protect themselves (whether it be from society, responsibility, or their own self-destruction and/or hatred).
But then, there remains the noncosmetic side of religion.
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RE: Pope fires cardinal who is outspoken critic of gay marriage and abortion
December 19, 2013 at 5:52 pm
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(December 19, 2013 at 2:24 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Seriously, the more I hear about this pope, the more I like him. I mean, the Bible, the Catholic church and Christianity are still factually wrong, but at least he's being far less harmful than his predecessors.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/franci...y-marriage
I agree.
I do like this pope. But call me cynical, I'm still expecting the second shoe to drop.
D'oh. Faith No More beat me to it.
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RE: Pope fires cardinal who is outspoken critic of gay marriage and abortion
December 19, 2013 at 6:03 pm
(December 19, 2013 at 4:37 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: I really, really would like to hear what my right-wing conservative Republican ultra-Catholic sister and brother-in-law think about this.
Faux News has already been attacking him, so it kinda puts them in a bind, doesn't it? Either reject the message from Faux News or reject the pope.
Personally, I hope he pushes the GOP back into reasonableness, at least as far as economic policy goes.
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RE: Pope fires cardinal who is outspoken critic of gay marriage and abortion
December 19, 2013 at 6:07 pm
(December 19, 2013 at 6:03 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Personally, I hope he pushes the GOP back into reasonableness, at least as far as economic policy goes.
Honestly, with the teabaggers basically running the GOP these days, I doubt that will ever happen. Pushing the party away from the extreme right fringe is liberalism to these people, and any moderate Repubs are simply RINO's. I mean, fuck, they refuse to change their policies even though they know that they can't win on the straight, rich, white guy vote.
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RE: Pope fires cardinal who is outspoken critic of gay marriage and abortion
December 19, 2013 at 6:27 pm
(December 19, 2013 at 3:11 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: As Popes go he's awesome... Unless you have a vagina. He hates/is terrified of women for some reason. Seems sensible to me! Women are only slightly less terrifying than Americans!
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Re: RE: Pope fires cardinal who is outspoken critic of gay marriage and abortion
December 19, 2013 at 7:56 pm
(December 19, 2013 at 6:27 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: (December 19, 2013 at 3:11 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: As Popes go he's awesome... Unless you have a vagina. He hates/is terrified of women for some reason. Seems sensible to me! Women are only slightly less terrifying than Americans! True. True. I am especially scary. My Grandmother used to say it would be a brave man who ended up with me. Lol
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RE: Pope fires cardinal who is outspoken critic of gay marriage and abortion
December 19, 2013 at 8:20 pm
(December 19, 2013 at 3:17 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: (December 19, 2013 at 3:11 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: He hates/is terrified of women for some reason.
Channels Min: that is because he prefers little boys just as all priests do.
Min also decided to tone down the language a bit.
Ah, fuck that.
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RE: Pope fires cardinal who is outspoken critic of gay marriage and abortion
December 19, 2013 at 8:40 pm
(December 19, 2013 at 6:27 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: (December 19, 2013 at 3:11 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: As Popes go he's awesome... Unless you have a vagina. He hates/is terrified of women for some reason. Seems sensible to me! Women are only slightly less terrifying than Americans!
Aw, c'mon. I'm a teddy bear of an American. I'll grant that some of us are scary, and some are stupid (maybe most), but I at least am all right. 
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