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Swiss ban on minarets
#21
RE: Swiss ban on minarets
For centuries church bells have generated noise pollution but there is hardly any word spoken about that because people get selectively deaf to noises that happen all the time. I used to live very close to the Church of St. Agatha & Barbara in Oudenbosch (the one that is a copy of St Peter's in Rome)and when I had friends for a sleepover they couldn't sleep very well because of the very loud church bells ringing. I had no such problems as I was used to them. The same with people living close to train tracks or airports. There comes a time when you just don't pay attention to it anymore.

When a new noise source comes along, or you are forced to move to a place with a source of noise, it is very natural to be opposed to it. If the government decided to put a fresh railroad track next to your property you would complain too. The status quo has been disturbed, which leads to unrest. The same is true for mosques, clubs, dog kennels, you name it.

The devaluation of your property (who would want to move into a house with such noisy neighbors) is therefore also a legitimate concern.
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Leo van Miert
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#22
RE: Swiss ban on minarets
(December 2, 2009 at 6:11 am)leo-rcc Wrote: For centuries church bells have generated noise pollution but there is hardly any word spoken about that because people get selectively deaf to noises that happen all the time.
True for some individuals, but in England we are getting more and more lawsuits from people who have just moved from the town into some cute little village, and then can't stand the bells which have been rung for centuries.
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#23
RE: Swiss ban on minarets
(December 2, 2009 at 6:27 am)Pope Alfred Wrote:
(December 2, 2009 at 6:11 am)leo-rcc Wrote: For centuries church bells have generated noise pollution but there is hardly any word spoken about that because people get selectively deaf to noises that happen all the time.
True for some individuals, but in England we are getting more and more lawsuits from people who have just moved from the town into some cute little village, and then can't stand the bells which have been rung for centuries.

If you move to a village and not notice this huge building with a bell next to your future property you are just as silly as those people filing lawsuits against airports when the noise of airplanes coming over disturb your bbq. Those things were there when you bought the place.

I can sympathize with those people that bought a place because it is nice and quiet and then some time later a noise polluter comes along. But you can't tell me that when you inspect a house you do not notice an airplane coming over every 10 minutes or a church bell ringing every half our, or a mosque that calls to prayer 6 times a day.
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Leo van Miert
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RE: Swiss ban on minarets
(December 2, 2009 at 6:49 am)leo-rcc Wrote: If you move to a village and not notice this huge building with a bell next to your future property you are just as silly as those people filing lawsuits against airports when the noise of airplanes coming over disturb your bbq. Those things were there when you bought the place.
I can sympathize with those people that bought a place because it is nice and quiet and then some time later a noise polluter comes along. But you can't tell me that when you inspect a house you do not notice an airplane coming over every 10 minutes or a church bell ringing every half our, or a mosque that calls to prayer 6 times a day.
No, Leo, I'm on your side here - that's what I was saying. Big Grin The airport example always annoys me, too. My point about people getting used to noise is that most will, but some awkward buggers will start making a fuss. I live 100 yards from the church and in between is a farm which often smells and where they bring the cattle in for milking about 4am. We accept it and like it. FSM Grin
BUT if some nuisance were to appear suddenly in our midst, we might have a fair reason to decide that we couldn't get used to it, and to protest.
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