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RE: Does God have rules he needs to follow?
February 27, 2014 at 7:37 pm
A code of conduct? You have a very broad definition of what a legal system is
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RE: Does God have rules he needs to follow?
February 27, 2014 at 7:40 pm
(February 27, 2014 at 7:33 pm)professor Wrote: You know what Badwolf? There IS a code of conduct even in those remote tribes.
The legal system in Somalia apparently is Islam. Ever hear of Sharia law?
Somalia is a combination of tribe justice and religious law (I believe Muslim). But it doesn't have a recognised government or fair judicial system.
I don't see how any of this is relevant to any of your points, in fact it just goes to show that morality, even if it is fucked up, is not owned by your religion or anyone else's.
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RE: Does God have rules he needs to follow?
February 27, 2014 at 7:55 pm
(This post was last modified: February 27, 2014 at 8:01 pm by professor.)
My point was in reply to a comment. Everyone has a morality.
In a community in the jungle, it develops as a code and violators are dealt with.
In a nation, it becomes a legal system. The idea is the same.
Check out the RULES here on the atheist forum.
Yes, within that code of conduct, there is a justice system.
You simply cannot get away from it.
The OP asked an intelligent question, I am not responsible for the rabbit trail that led here.
I missed this one- "Fair judicial system"?
The Muslims who read the back of their book would say they are quite fair.
When you say "Fair" are you making reference to a standard of some kind?
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RE: Does God have rules he needs to follow?
February 27, 2014 at 8:13 pm
"Does God have rules he needs to follow?"
No. Logic emanates from God. He is the source of the rules. If he were not consistent existence of anything wouldn't be possible.
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RE: Does God have rules he needs to follow?
February 27, 2014 at 8:23 pm
The most important rule God has to hold to is not existing.
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RE: Does God have rules he needs to follow?
February 27, 2014 at 8:32 pm
Professor, I have a question. When Jesus was on the cross, why did he cry out, "Why have you forsaken me!"?
This question is for the Professor. All you evil atheists just bite back your snide commentary.
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RE: Does God have rules he needs to follow?
February 27, 2014 at 9:55 pm
That last sentence was funny (cute).
My understanding is, when Jesus took on the sins of mankind (He was made to be sin who knew no sin), the close connection with the Father was severed for a section of time.
Jesus felt the Holy Spirit leave Him. That is why He said what He did.
At the beginning of His efforts here, He quoted, "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, to proclaim liberty......" Note the word "Upon". Even though He was the second Adam, He walked as an OT prophet with the Spirit of God upon Him.
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RE: Does God have rules he needs to follow?
February 27, 2014 at 10:01 pm
(February 27, 2014 at 8:13 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: "Does God have rules he needs to follow?"
No. Logic emanates from God. He is the source of the rules. If he were not consistent existence of anything wouldn't be possible.
Then why do so many Christians give me descriptions of god that are inherently illogical?
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RE: Does God have rules he needs to follow?
February 27, 2014 at 10:39 pm
This thing has gone from my original question to Somalia and all kinds of shit. My next question to sweeten the whole deal as Jesus was on the cross he supposedly said "Father forgive them for they know not what they do" But Jesus is asking himself the father version of god to do something he cant do. FORGIVE!!! So why would Jesus ask God (the Father) to do an impossible task that he is not capable of??? So I think this is a major flaw in the christian story of making a god that needs to sacrifice himself so he can forgive his "children" for the original sin he so graciously bestowed upon them. And to top it all off he says a total BS sentence to himself to forgive when he knows damn well he is killing himself for that exact purpose....this is all too ridiculous for a thinking person to swallow sorry
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RE: Does God have rules he needs to follow?
February 27, 2014 at 10:51 pm
Jesus forgives a man his sins in Mark chapter 2. Without any type of sacrifice. He just tells the man that his sins are forgiven. When the pharisees become indignant at Jesus for saying it, he heals the man of his paralysis instantly, by merely speaking it. No sacrifice, no blood spilled, no scapegoats... just Jesus saying "you're clear, bud."
You know, the way any person today would forgive another for something they did. I know that I've forgiven people lots of things over the years, and they have done the same for me. At no time did it ever require that we behead a pigeon or anything like that. If lowly humans can figure out this "forgiveness" thing that easily, why is it so complicated for god? Maybe it's a fetish? Auto-erotic crucifixion?
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