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RE: Patriotism
April 8, 2014 at 8:06 pm (This post was last modified: April 8, 2014 at 8:08 pm by Whateverist.)
(April 8, 2014 at 6:44 pm)KUSA Wrote: I am patriotic towards my country and people but not my government. It is too corrupt.

That government is currently the best those people can do. It is far from ideal, but it is the lawfully expressed will of these people. You are entitled to criticize but if you're one of these gun nutters who anticipates the day when you'll turn your arsenal on policemen and military personnel to express your second amendment 'rights' .. you're pathetic and dangerously crazy.


As for the OP, I agree with what most have expressed here. Patriotism is just provincialism on a grand scale.
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RE: Patriotism
April 8, 2014 at 8:53 pm
(April 8, 2014 at 6:25 pm)Chuck Wrote: "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"

- Samuel Johnson

Today it is religion.

Patriotism has slipped to second.
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RE: Patriotism
April 8, 2014 at 8:58 pm
(April 8, 2014 at 8:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(April 8, 2014 at 6:25 pm)Chuck Wrote: "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"

- Samuel Johnson

Today it is religion.

Patriotism has slipped to second.


Patriotism covers everyone, I bet most of the hardcore patriots or nationalists in america are probably fundamental christians.
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Re: RE: Patriotism
April 8, 2014 at 9:14 pm
(April 8, 2014 at 8:06 pm)whateverist Wrote: That government is currently the best those people can do. It is far from ideal, but it is the lawfully expressed will of these people. You are entitled to criticize but if you're one of these gun nutters who anticipates the day when you'll turn your arsenal on policemen and military personnel to express your second amendment 'rights' .. you're pathetic and dangerously crazy.

Not sure where that came from. You sound like a paranoid nut yourself.
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RE: Patriotism
April 8, 2014 at 9:18 pm
(April 8, 2014 at 8:58 pm)cromwell Wrote:
(April 8, 2014 at 8:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Today it is religion.

Patriotism has slipped to second.


Patriotism covers everyone, I bet most of the hardcore patriots or nationalists in america are probably fundamental christians.

Hard to differentiate, its true.

Some of these douchebags think jesus was at Valley Forge.
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RE: Patriotism
April 8, 2014 at 9:30 pm
(April 8, 2014 at 9:18 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(April 8, 2014 at 8:58 pm)cromwell Wrote: Patriotism covers everyone, I bet most of the hardcore patriots or nationalists in america are probably fundamental christians.

Hard to differentiate, its true.

Some of these douchebags think jesus was at Valley Forge.


I don't know much about mormonism, (I am planning on reading the book) but is it true they believe america is the true holy land of gods chosen people and that native americans was in fact a jewish tribe, or has someone been winding me up?
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RE: Patriotism
April 8, 2014 at 9:34 pm
Patriotism is just state worship and has always felt too Orwellian for me to feel comfortable with it.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Patriotism
April 8, 2014 at 9:38 pm
(April 8, 2014 at 9:34 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Patriotism is just state worship and has always felt too Orwellian for me to feel comfortable with it.


Yep, it is worship of a land. maybe it should fall under paganism lol.
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RE: Patriotism
April 8, 2014 at 9:45 pm
Mormonism is xtianity moved out of that lousy little fucking foreign place with all those smelly jews.

Nothing more.
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Re: RE: Patriotism
April 8, 2014 at 9:53 pm
(April 8, 2014 at 9:34 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Patriotism is just state worship and has always felt too Orwellian for me to feel comfortable with it.

I agree. And when the state wants to blow other countries up and kill by the millions the patriots cheer.
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