Atheists... why do you believe that God doesn't exist?

[Mister Agenda]

honestly if atheist cant disprove a god that has been give traits that do not match observation like rising from the dead then said atheist needs to keep the hole under his nose shut. But, then again these types don't talk out of that hole do they.

Gods with contradictory attibutes clearly don't exist, but that hardly exhausts the list of proposed gods. I'm very interested in seeing your proof that gods don't rise from the dead.

I guess it is why most tend to attack and dehumanize this "perceived" enemy ... The theist. If you can separated the notion that you were screwed (literally in some cases) by a person then religion becomes easy to put it in its place. But with the hate approach, or fairy tale tale fighting (bad gods bible crap), it only forces the theist to clam up.

this will never end I guess ...the average IQ is 100 on both sides ...

Being a dick to both sides leaves you with the high road to yourself, eh?

[Coffee Jesus]

post #167, with portions that I've highlighted in bolded blue.

My belief isn't supernatural. I believe in a supernatural entity defined as the Christian God. Why not believe in any absurd idea of the supernatural: because I have the ability to reason what those ideas are, as we can all know what they are.

Is it beyond your intellect to understand the meaning of leprechauns, for example?

Moreover, studying Christian doctrine is an in depth study of the supernatural. It's my subject. So I'm better equipped to consider questions of supernatural origin. Someone ignorant of the field wouldn't be as equipped to consider such problems. Practically, I will be more aware of superstitious practice and able to avoid them. That's my experience.

If you want to dismiss supernatural entities, I would expect you to have some idea why. If you have no reason, then I'm happy to acknowledge your lack of opinion.

In other words, you know how to disprove the existence of Casper the ghost. Please enlighten us. It's not an argument if you just say "I know, but I'm not going to tell you how I know."

[nogodchick]

Because religion does not make a lick of sense. It just doesn't. People are afraid to die and that's the bottom line. The root of it is we are the only species on the planet to be aware of our immortality and people are just shit scared of that.

[fr0d0]

But that "single entity" your belief focuses on is no more credible than any other, and no less ridiculous.

Precisely. And that's entirely irrelevant.

[sven]

Now that you've been duped into opening this thread, you might as well help us with our little survey to find out your opinion of what atheism is all about.

Thanks for your time.

Love,
Me

Like the heart. I feel the love. Somehow you typing that emote made ectoplasmic tendrils of love reach across the Atlantic, touching my soul.
I don't believe in God because I was never taught to do so. I am what I call an 'organic atheist'.

[fr0d0]

In other words, you know how to disprove the existence of Casper the ghost. Please enlighten us. It's not an argument if you just say "I know, but I'm not going to tell you how I know."

I endlessly go into the reasoning in detail as the questions arise. Answering such a nebulous request is like explaining the universe to a baby. Baby steps is what the uninitiated need.

But your question isn't cogent in the first place. Answering it would compound the error.

[nogodchick]

Seriously, why would anyone want the God depicted in the bible and other holy texts. If He existed, He would be a vengeful, self-regarding, narcissistic shithead. You can keep the twat.

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Because religion does not make a lick of sense. It just doesn't. People are afraid to die and that's the bottom line. The root of it is we are the only species on the planet to be aware of our immortality and people are just shit scared of that.

[Whateverist]

Seriously, why would anyone want the God depicted in the bible and other holy texts. If He existed, He would be a vengeful, self-regarding, narcissistic shithead and I already have boyfriend.

Fixed that for you.

[Rampant.A.I.]

You're right, such claims require nothing to dispel. They don't match up with anything observable, and can therefore be chalked up to superstition.


That's interesting. You dehumanize atheists, then go on to complain about how atheists dehumanize theists.

Guess that high horse comes with blinders for the rider, too.





What hate approach? "You just say you don't believe in God because you hate God"?


But it does end, in many cases, and people are able to critically examine their own unsupported beliefs instead of making up excuses for them.

You don't see examples of anything else that requires apologetics to defend. Why do you think that is?

no it is how some people talk about theist that shows me hate. Sure, some theist are assholes, most aint. Just like atheist. Look at Sven rant about AA. Just because it has some religion in it don't make it bogus. Many in here have been popped in the ass and they blame religion. That's just stupid. People that were abused need to take a look in the mirror and see why and what they are striking out against.

Are you actually arguing that any atheist who is angry at religion is angry because they were anally raped by a religious person, and needs therapy? Are you taking prescription or other drugs?

What is bogus is rejecting helping someone on the basis of belief. Condoms in Africa is a great example. The RCC says if you stop fuking every single women and child you see you can slow aids. That is right. End of story.

Except it's NOT the end of story, The Catholic church is responsible for the spread of AIDS in Africa. Abstinence does not work, no matter how much proponents want it to.

Whether you want condoms out or not doesn't matter. That statement is right. Why can't we address the despicable behavior we see in Africa with behavoir change with and without religion?

Yes, condoms DO significantly impact the spread of contagious diseases, including AIDS, regardless of the truth of some abstract value of truth, that not even Catholics themselves hold to

Sexually active Catholic women older than 18 are just as likely ( 98% ) to have used some form of contraception banned by the Vatican as women in
the general population ( 99% ). Among sexually active Hispanic Catholic women, 96% have used a contraceptive method banned by the Vatican. (NSFG, 2008)

http://www.catholicsforchoice.org/topics...oryweb.pdf

If a fairy tale changes someone mind, that just shows what they don't know. They shouldn't be offering an opinion either way. Let the grownups handle it. If god is loving why did he wipe a city out? I mean that's just a stupid question. If god is all loving why did he kill innocent babies? really? you are telling me a city or a child (or group of children) is worth more than all of humanity?
So now I have a boogie man god and a loving god to dismiss.
No apologetic for me. Prove the bible is the literal word of god without using the bible. That's where I start. I claim it was assembled by man as history shows. That's my evidence. End of conversation. everything after that is washy washy if not rooted in Constantine and historical context. And any discussion on a boogie man god or all loving god is a logical fallacy.
How a person describes the god of the bible is a look into how that person sees the world.
How will you describe "it", this thing that don't exist.


Yes, I talk to my fellow atheist like I see them (teeknow) talk to people that don't think like them. It discussing aint it. I have to shower after each post because I have jumped into this cesspool.

Hey check that out, maybe I do apologetics.

Touché for you.

[Rampant.A.I.]

So I've given you good reason why the concept if God is different to myths. But you ignore, not challenge that reasoning. Noted.

I missed that part. Could you link me to where you did this?

In Frodo's mind, claiming you have rational reasons is the same thing as presenting your reasoning for examination.